GRABS Podcast

Grabs 144 Fort Worth, Texas (8/10/24)

Trevor Poitevent - Captain

Brad Adamcik - Engineer

Fort Worth Fire Department

August 10, 2024

1 story single family residence

2-2.5 minutes from arrival to out the window

125-140 lb 94 year old female

Headfirst out window, it was a known victim with solid location information. It was a window based search and rescue.

Takeaways

1) Every Ems call is a learning opportunity for fire. From layouts, burglar bars, interesting construction. We had been to this house before and knew where her bedroom was and her lack of mobility should have her confined to a small area.

2). Where there’s one, there’s two, always assume multiple victims. We didn’t have a second victim but we were thinking it because we knew her son lived with her.

3). Have plans, talk about your playbook and don’t think the same thing happens at every fire. Mental reps count and everyone being on the same page based on the given circumstances was a huge help, I didn’t have to give any direction as the officer, the guys went to work. We coordinated well with the next engine, with minimal discussion, due to our close relationship with them.

4) be ready on arrival, FF’s were masked up coming off the rig.

5). I know you said 3-4 but here’s another. If you can Isolate the space, do it. But be prepared for that option to be nonexistent.

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* Grabs 143 Coventry Twp, OH (10/30/24)

* LT. Mike Gasaway

* 10/30/24

* Single Story Wood Frame

* Came in as people trapped

* Front of house fire showing, one person out with a diagram of layout.

* 03:15-03:23(1st one) 03:27 2nd one

* 250lbs

* Denver Drill

* 1- All Mutual Aid getting toned at same time

* 2- Mutual Aid med unit on first alarm

* 3- Minimal talking on fire ground. Lots of face to face

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Grabs 142 Charlotte County, FL (9/27/2024)

Grant speaks with Shawn and Dennis about a grab they made on a fire while being deployed on Hurricane Helene.

Engineer Dennis Kerr-North Collier Fire

Captain Shawn Robinson-South Trail Fire

FLUSAR TF6

While out doing area surveys/rescue a fire was in there area.

Responded on side by side in USAR gear, no fire gear. Arrived before engine.

Manufactured home with heavy fire in carport, extending into house.

PD with wife stating everyone was out, neighbor stating husband went back in.

With no PPE Dennis and Shawn went in from C side, smoke banked halfway down. Victim found by carport door.

Dirty drag to bring victim out C-Side and then around to front. Ended up taking victim to awaiting rescue in side by side.

Don’t listen to bystander reports…even from cops.

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Grabs 141 Glasgo Fire, Kentucky (10/27/24)

Grant speaks with Colin Manley

9:52 PM Came in as house fire from neighbor

4 plex apartment/townhouse

Smoke showing from C side eves

During 360 heard beating on the window

Crew threw ladders to window

Officer went front door-first floor clear, Smoke 6’ down off second floor (no hoselne)

Life fire layout at top of stairs-Found room with trapped occupant.

Clutter in room, found victims ankle-he was standing

Victim came down on FF and was combative.

Vict then went unconscious.

Victim was slippery-6’ 230 lbs

Multiple FF’s helped drag him down the stairs-Wrist lock-head first :

44 seconds from arrival.

Second floor fire, adjacent room.

Lessons-take a TIC, Pay attention on 360, Pay attention for your way out, pillows and blankets on the floor feel like victims and make way out hard.  Victim weight and slippery. Multiple drag techniques

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Grabs 14- Fort Dodge, IA (11/17/24)

Name and Rank:

-Kyle Porter Firefighter/Paramedic

Department Name:

-Fort Dodge Fire Rescue

Date of Grab:

11/17/24

Type of Building:

-3 Story Ordinary Construction

-Multifamily Dwelling built in 1895

-22’ wide by 140’ deep

-Approx 5 units not conforming to code

Arrival to Removal:

-3 minutes

Weight of Victim:

-110 pounds

Method of Removal:

-24’ ground ladder with a 14’ roof ladder spliced

-Hooks of the roof ladder were placed into the window. The ledge was wider than

opening on hooks, so those were not hooked into the room.

-I told the victim she was going to have to climb onto the ladder as I had to push the roof

ladder into the 24’ extension and also pull down on the roof ladder to keep it from sliding on the ledge of the window.

-I assisted her in transferring to the extension ladder and stayed behind her while moving to the ground.

-The victim was then able to walk away from the building and head towards ambulance staging.

Show Notes:

1) Prior to my shift beginning at 0700 on 11/16 I came in to work at 0330 for a second alarm on the shift prior to mine for a single family dwelling fire. That fire included extensive overhaul and we did not clear the scene until shift change.

2) At 0220 on 11/17 we were dispatched to an intersection where a police officer reported a structure fire fully engulfed with occupants still inside. We were responding in what we call a “broken play”. We were clearing from a natural gas leak in a restaurant when we were dispatched to the structure fire. Our Incident Commander was the farthest from the structure fire. Our IC normally is first on scene and can give crews a mode of operation/play prior to our arrival with his arrival report.

a) My engine I was assigned to was the first on scene simultaneously with the next engine.

b) The engine I was assigned to operates with duties as a truck would. We were also on a reserve engine that day as the apparatus we normally operate with is out of service for repairs.

c) The road was completely blocked by police squad cars hindering our access to the scene and denied us the ability to get a good view of the structure.

3) When I dismounted the apparatus as the driver, normally I would retrieve my SCBA, Helmet and other needed equipment from an outside compartment. I was met by multiple people in the roadway stating someone was hanging out of a window and that we would need a ladder to get her out. I retrieved the 24’ ladder off of our engine and went to the delta side of the building where the victim was found leaning out of a 3rd story window.

a) Incident command arrived at that time. He mentioned using a 35’ ladder to get the height we needed. I advised him we did not currently have an apparatus on scene that carried a 35’ ladder. At that time the engine company was able to park in front of the building. The IC grabbed the roof ladder while I was talking to the victim from the 24’ ladder. He handed me the roof ladder and I leaned it into the window.

b) With the hooks of the ladder not reaching downward passed the ledge of the window I knew I would be unable to ascend it to help the victim down. I then explained to her that she needed to get on the ladder at that moment as the smoke conditions were getting worse. At that point I was unable to see her from the 24’ ladder. She began to descend the ladder and I assisted her in transferring to the extension ladder and down to the ground.

4) After removing her from the structure I made contact with my Lt. and we knew there was a bed confined occupant on the first floor. We retrieved a cot from an ambulance and went into the structure to remove her. She had no injuries but we had to place her in an ambulance away from the incident. When we loaded her into the ambulance, the victim f

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Grabs 139 Oklahoma City, OK (10/20/2023)

Grant and Nick Speak with the guys from Firemanship 2024

Major Brad Tobin

FF Jared Ward

2 Story Garden Apartment

Confirmed fire and trapped by dispatch

Callers gave apartment numbers

Big victims

250 Male

350 Woman in bathtub

Mega mover?  Window Cut Down?

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Grabs 138 Bowling Green, KY (3/4/2024)

Apartment Fire

2 victims

Expect victims

Search around victims for additional ones, especially children

Search off the hose line as making your way to the fire

If you’re the only crew on scene be flexible enough to complete multiple tasks at once.

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Grabs 137 Longview, TX (Sept 2023)

Grant and Nick Speak with the guys from Firemanship 2024

BC Jon Eric Johnson

Driver Brad Conrado

FF Josh Mosley

430A

2 Story Multi-Unit Apartment

Multiple Victims Known before arrival

Ground Ladder Rescue-Told 2 more inside

Division Sup

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* Grabs 136 Haltom City Fire, TX (12/4/2022)

* Grant speaks with Bryan about a fire they had on 12/4/2022

* 3:54A

* First 2 crews were not used to working together. Arrive together.

* Small 1 story brick home 1000 SF

* Neighbors said someone was out.

* Fire showing outside of bedroom window

* Fire attack locates vict in wheelchair via tic.

* LT pealed off and removed victim. Tried using wheelchair, got caught on hose

* Bottleneck in hallway

* Zero viz down hallway by bedrooms

* Second victim found up against the door, moved vict to get door open

* Big victim. Head towards front door. Wrist drag with LT pushing, 1-2-3 pull 3-4’

* Slippery, narrow hall and dragging over fire hose.

* Pass victim off and finish

* Vict 1 <6 min, Vict 2 Found at 3 min and 2 min removal.

* Helmet Cam Discussion

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* Grabs 135 Wadsworth, OH (May 13, 2024)

* Grant speaks with Danny Loparo about a grab they made on May 13, 2024.

* 2 station combination department

* 730 A-Call came in from elderly lady that said her O2 was on fire. Line went dead.

* 55+ Community, 2 story town homes with 4 in a row

* Smoke showing from second floor

* First line in front, Ladders to rear

* Attack and VES arrived at victim same time, Doubled ladders (side by Side). Attack hands victim out and two person removal down ladder.

* 5’5” 130 lbs, slippery, handed out head first.

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