Gratitude sounds simple…until life gets messy. Lisa talks with Dr. Vaughn Worthen—clinical psychologist, longtime BYU counselor, and expert in human resilience—about why gratitude isn’t about pretending everything is fine, but about seeing beyond what hurts. Together they explore how small, intentional practices can shift our focus, quiet negativity, and make room for peace even in seasons of grief, stress, or uncertainty. With stories from Vaughn’s decades of counseling and reflections from Lisa’s own life, this episode is a warm, honest look at how gratitude works in real life, awkward moments, and hard days. It’s an invitation to notice what’s good.