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  • Hope Is Not a Marketing Strategy

    Every producer holding grain has a reason the price should come back. Trent Klarenbach's position is that the reason is the problem.

    He grew up between two neighbours who shaped Prairie grain marketing, studied agricultural economics, farmed, and then came to technical analysis sideways in his fifties when his son introduced him to it. He now writes market reports built on price action rather than news.

     

    What's Inside

    - The two neighbours he grew up beside, one who brought a new crop to Western Canada in a car trunk and one who took the wheat board to the Supreme Court

    - Why he thought charts were nonsense, and what changed his mind

    - The idea that technical analysis is really the study of human behaviour, and why the same patterns appear in lentils, canola and equities decades apart

    - The four stages every market moves through, explained with a drive west as the map

    - Where he called the start of a major grain uptrend, and where he called its end

    - Why producers carry a structural bullish bias, and what it costs when a market turns

    - Anchoring: the trap of remembering what durum once was, and why the market does not care

    - What to actually do in a decline, including the discipline most producers find hardest


    Connect with Trent: Website: klarenbach.ca 
    Twitter: TrentKlarenbach 

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    1 hr 8 min
  • Vertical Farms Aren't Coming for Your Acres

    Vertical farming spent several years as the most overfunded idea in agriculture, and then the money stopped. Harry Duran has interviewed the founders on both sides of that correction.

    He came to it sideways, from corporate marketing into podcasting, and built a show around controlled environment agriculture just before the industry hit its reckoning. This conversation is about what survives the hype cycle and what the honest case for indoor growing actually is.

    What's Inside

    • Why the industry is working through what he calls its trough of disillusionment, and what is being recalibrated
    • The core premise that has not changed: growing fresh produce close to where it gets eaten rather than shipping it across a continent
    • What precise control over light, temperature, humidity and nutrition actually buys, and what it costs to run
    • Why he argues indoor growing is a partner to field agriculture rather than a competitor, and where the two do not overlap
    • Where it genuinely wins: harsh climates, regions importing almost all their food, dense urban centres, and places with no grocery access
    • The range of what exists now, from shipping containers to countertop units to commercial leafy green facilities
    • What separates the operations that last: committed buyers before you build, and an honest view of the power bill
    • On finding your own voice, which is the other half of what he does

     

    Connect with Harry: 

    Website: https://harryduran.com 

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/harryduran/ 

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/HarryDuranFu... 

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    50 min
  • Why Do So Many Ag Technologies Never Reach the Farm?

    Most new ag technology never makes it past the test plot. Jacqueline Keena, managing director of EMILI (the Enterprise Machine Intelligence and Learning Initiative), joins Dan to talk about Innovation Farm, a 5,500 acre commercial seed operation north of Winnipeg where new technology gets tested at real farm scale, with a working producer, before it's ever asked of a customer.

    What's Inside

    • Why access to full scale farm data, not test plot data, is the real barrier most new ag tech companies run into
    • How Innovation Farm ran 22 collaborative projects in a single growing season, from herbicide resistant weed mapping to sensor networks deployed across the farm
    • The Gecko Engineering and Green Arrow Technology story, and what it took to get weed resistance mapping working in a real field
    • The data interoperability problem that keeps producers locked out of one clear picture across platforms
    • Why closing the agriculture labor shortage may depend on people who never set foot on a farm
    •  

      Connect with Jaqueline: 

      Website: emilicanada.com

      Twitter: emilicanada

      LinkedIn: EMILI

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      Website: growingthefuture.ca

      YouTube: Growing the Future

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      48 min
    • A Seed to Plant Cheese

      A grade five class is planting seeds. One student puts up a hand and asks for a seed to plant cheese.

      That is a small moment and it is not the child's fault. There is no agriculture class in the K to 12 curriculum. Whatever a student learns about where food comes from arrives through a science or social studies unit, and depends almost entirely on whether an individual teacher decides to go and find it.

       

      What's Inside

      - What the organization actually does, and the scale of student experiences it delivers across the country each year

      - Why demand from teachers has climbed sharply in recent years, and what is driving it

      - The harder problem underneath: teachers who have no agricultural background themselves, working from whatever material they can find

      - What a university student said about farmers that is worth hearing in full

      - Why a combine parked at an elementary school is remembered for weeks, and the retention research behind that

      - A program that takes grade three and four students out to compare a fertilized plot with an unfertilized one, and what they work out for themselves

      - Four specific things a producer can do, including the one that costs nothing but a morning

      - Why students think an ag career means a tractor seat, and the list of jobs that proves otherwise

       

      Connect with Sara: 

      Website: https://aitc-canada.ca/en-ca/ 

       Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/AITCCanada/ 

      Twitter: AITCCanada

      Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/aitccanada/ 

      Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbDjICByAj9euDpyUMb9aZg 

       

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      57 min
    • The Truth About What's Actually in Your Fertilizer Bag

      Only one in three fields gets soil sampled in a given year, which means most fertilizer decisions in Western Canada are still a guess. Jarrett Chambers, co-founder of ATP Nutrition and a soil fertility scientist who cut his teeth managing nutrition on golf courses and fresh produce farms before ever touching a canola field, joins Dan to talk about what those high stakes industries taught him that broad acre agriculture still hasn't caught up to.

      What's Inside

      Why golf course superintendents, judged every single Friday, became his real mentors on plant nutrition

      The difference between a low salt fertilizer that's actually soluble and one that just looks good on paper

      Why introducing a foreign biological organism to your soil is closer to a turf war than a fix

      How a real time tissue and soil scanner can hand you a full nutritional readout in under fifteen minutes

      Why "progress, not perfection" beats waiting for the perfect data before you act

       

      Connect with Jarrett: 

      Website: atpag.com

       Facebook:ATPNutritionLtd

      Twitter: ATPNutritionLtd

       

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      Website: growingthefuture.ca

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      1 hr 12 min
    • GTF Podcast: What the Farm Asked of Andy Junkin

      Andy Junkin grew up on a farm outside Bobcaygeon, Ontario. Seven generations. His father's farm. He came home from Guelph ready to work it. His dad plowed down his first crop because his uncle said it looked better.

      That was the beginning.

      What followed was a decade of trying to save his parents' marriage while figuring out whether he even had a right to farm. He eventually sat on a barn beam, in a dark place, and walked out. He has not been back to Bobcaygeon since. He now helps farm families in 22 states and five Canadian provinces find a different way through.

      This is how that started.

      What's Inside

      - What farm succession actually costs the son or daughter who comes home to work it

      - Why Andy believes most farm families are operating on an entitlement mindset -- and what replaces it

      - The three-rule daily practice that turns farm conflict into working relationships

      - Why only 12% of farms make it to the grandchildren -- and what the other 88% miss

      - Andy's mission: to help families before the auctioneer shows up, not after

       

      Related Episodes

      - The Silent Killer in Ag -- Lesley Kelly on farm mental health and the things no one says

      - Liquidity and Legacy (Feb 2026) -- when the farm math stops working and the family has to decide

       

      Connect with Andy: 

      Website: https://stubborn.farm

      Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/caygeon

      Twitter: https://twitter.com/stubborn_farm

      Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/stubborn.farm/

      Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@StubbornFarm  

      Aberhart Family of Companies: 

      https://aberhartagsolutions.ca

      https://aberhartfarms.com

      https://suregrowth.ca

      https://www.convergencegrowth.com

       

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      LinkedIn: https://ca.linkedin.com/company/growing-the-future

       

      Content note: This episode includes open conversation about mental health and suicidal ideation

      on a family farm. If you are struggling, please reach out. Farm Stress Line: 1-866-327-6701.

      Talk Suicide Canada: 1-833-456-4566. In the U.S.: 988.

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      1 hr 5 min
    • Small Town Strong

      Lewellyn Melnyk was twelve in the 1980s, on a third generation grain farm in Manitoba, and struggling with something nobody in a small town had language for yet.

      She became a journalist, married, moved back to the farm, and kept adding to her plate without taking anything off it. The panic attacks arrived in her thirties. This conversation is about what she did next, and the book she wrote about it.

      What's Inside

      - What depression looked like for a kid in a rural community in the eighties, before anyone was talking about it

      - The habits of a workaholic and a people pleaser, and how long they held before they did not

      - What she means by building fences, and why a farm audience understands boundaries faster when they are explained that way

      - Exercise as something she does for her head rather than her weight, and what changes when that is the actual reason

      - Food, sleep and a nightly gratitude practice, described as maintenance rather than treatment

      - Why rural stories go untold, and why the women running farms alongside everything else are the ones most often missing from them

      - Her case that mental health in a small town is a collective job rather than a private one
       

      Connect with Lewellyn: 

      Website: https://www.lewellynmelnyk.com

      Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lewellyn.melnyk

      Twitter: https://twitter.com/lewellynmelnyk

      Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lewellynmelnyk/


       

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      1 hr 2 min
    • They Told the Farmers Not to Buy

      A sales rep phones his manager, worried. He has just stood in front of twenty farmers who together represent about half a million dollars of his annual sales, and told them not to buy. Two dry years, too much nitrogen still in the ground, the product would not pay. The company's response was to celebrate it.

      Trevor Thiessen spent more than two decades in agricultural biologicals before buying a Saskatchewan manufacturer in his forties. This is a conversation about what he learned on somebody else's money, and what changed when it became his own.


      What's Inside

      - Why not getting the banking job he trained for was the best thing that happened to him

      - The long, unglamorous history of biologicals, including a 1912 sales manual priced at the same dollars per acre the same product sells for today

      - What went wrong when they scaled a product before testing it in real field conditions, and what farmers had to do about it

      - Buying a business two years after fire destroyed its production facility, and what the first three years actually looked like

      - The audacious five-year goal they set for a demoralized team, why the number was never the point, and how long it actually took

      - Harvest weed seed control explained plainly: three streams through a combine, why the weed seeds ride in one of them, and what it costs per acre

      - The chaplain they hired while they were still broke, and the phone call that proved it was the right call

      - What twenty years of selling to farmers on four continents taught him about what the job actually is


      Connect with Trevor: 

      Website: redekopmfg.com 

      Facebook: redekopmfg 

      Twitter: redekopmfg

      Youtube: MAVstrawchopper

       

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      1 hr 1 min
    • One Farm Saved 500,000 Dollars by Testing Instead of Guessing

      Heather Deobald, Vice President of Operations at Quantum Genetics, sent her own husband out with a bag of test tubes eight years ago to try a new genomic test on their farm. The result came back negative for sclerotinia spores. He wanted to spray half the field anyway, just in case. She said no. They tested again five days later. Same result. They didn't spray.

      In the eight years since, the farm has sprayed fungicide exactly three times, saving close to half a million dollars they would have spent spraying as a precaution. The technology behind it, a real-time DNA test that reads canola petals for disease spores in four hours instead of the ten days the original 1980s version took, grew out of a company that started in cattle genetics and pivoted through a Canadian flax export crisis before landing in crop disease prediction, and even did a stint running COVID tests during the pandemic.

      What's Inside

      • How a DNA-level petal test tells a grower whether sclerotinia spores are actually present, replacing a guess with a four hour answer
      • The real eight year result on Heather's own farm: three sprays instead of an annual precaution spray, and close to $500,000 saved
      • Why visual inspection alone cannot catch sclerotinia before it is too late, and what the risk barometer score actually measures
      • How a genomics lab built for cattle breeding ended up testing flax shipments during a 2010 GMO export crisis, then pivoted into crop disease detection
      • The company's unexpected detour into COVID-19 testing, and how that infrastructure connects back to the same DNA sequencing technology
      • Why the same leptin gene test used to predict when cattle are ready to ship is now being layered with other traits to help producers sort and market with more precision
      •  

        Connect with Heather:

        Website: Quantum Genetix

        Facebook: Quantum Genetix

        Twitter: quantumgenetix

        Instagram: @quantumgenetix

        Youtube: Quantum Genetix


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        41 min
      • A Year of Farming to Lose Six Hundred Dollars

        He graduated high school the year farmland hit the highest price it had ever been. Adjusted for inflation, the district has only just got back there. The catch in that year was a prime lending rate near twenty percent, which made buying land close to unthinkable.

        What followed was twenty years of land values falling and twenty years of them climbing back. This is a kitchen-table conversation with a farmer who worked through all of it on the same ground his family bought before the war.
         

        What's Inside

        - A grandmother born under a wagon box while her parents built the house, and what the family was doing two days later

        - A grandfather who failed at farming in the thirties, went to Detroit, and what the hiring signs at the plant actually said

        - The tractor bought in 1939 that is still on the farm, restored and running

        - The wet year he could not seed, why crop insurance did not help, and what the season finally cost him

        - Buying a half section back from a bank that did not want to own it, and the neighbour who had nothing left to fight for

        - Selling the cattle at what turned out to be exactly the wrong moment

        - Watching soil drift in the eighties, and still finding the ridges of it at the edges of sloughs

        - Finishing one succession with his father and starting the next with his daughter and son-in-law

        - Why he runs an operation with no negative talk and no axes to grind, and what that has to do with his neighbours

        Connect with Michael: 

        Phone: 1-306-736-7800 

        Email: [email protected] 

        Connect with Growing the Future

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        YouTube: Growing the Future

        Instagram: @growingthefuturepodcast

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        1 hr 12 min

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