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Guaranteed Income with Natalie Foster and Dorian Warren


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Universal basic income has gotten a lot of attention in the past five years. What is universal basic income, and why might it be a compelling component of a just society? How did the pandemic accelerate the possibility to adopting cash assistance in various forms?

Our guests for this episode are Natalie Foster and Dorian Warren, co-founders of the Economic Security Project which has spearheaded some tremendously impactful work around guaranteed income in the United States over the past few years.

In this episode, we do a deep dive on universal basic income and guaranteed income, including:

  • What universal basic income (UBI) is [2:15]
  • Its funding sources and costs [3:42, 34:31]
  • Four arguments for it from a political theory perspective [3:44]
  • Practical arguments from the macro and microeconomic points of view [8:24]
  • Distinguishing "guaranteed income" from UBI [11:14]
  • Historical influences and the movement of poverty abolitionism [16:03]
  • Valuing the care economy [19:24]
  • Complementary views from Buckminster Fuller, Milton Friedman, and Charles Eisenstein [20:42]
  • Incorporating solidarity economics [21:39]
  • Policy experiments, especially in Stockton, California [23:24]
  • How recipients spent the money and were affected [26:00]
  • Mayors for Guaranteed Income and pilots currently underway around the United States [32:17]
  • Going behind the scenes of social change work [35:42]
  • The narrative, cultural and political elements of power [39:00]
  • Similarities to social security [41:13]
  • Sources of excitement and hope [46:06]

Resources

  • Economic Security Project
  • UBI overview (Stanford Basic Income Lab)
  • Political Theory for Universal Basic Income, by Juliana Uhuru Bidadanure (highly recommended)
  • Where Do We Go from Here: Chaos or Community?: Martin Luther King Jr.'s final manuscript with a vision to abolish poverty
  • Solidarity Economics: Why Mutuality and Movements Matter, by Manuel Pastor and Chris Benner
  • The Sum of Us: What Racism Costs Everyone and How We Can Prosper Together, by Heather McGhee

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