Ever felt like your culture change efforts are just… throwing spaghetti at the wall 🍝?

In this episode, Nikki sits down with BJ McKay from ADVISA to swap real, in-the-trenches stories of transformation.

Together they break down the ATLAS framework, reveal why discomfort is the secret ingredient to lasting change, and share how to keep leaders energized instead of burned out.

From ditching the busywork to mastering the art of measurable impact, BJ's insights will have you rethinking how you approach culture so it actually sticks. This is your backstage pass to what works (and what doesn't) when you're leading people-first change that lasts. 🎯

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Key Takeaways:

• Real transformation is uncomfortable but necessary.
• Systems must show measurable impact, not just look good.
• Focus on fewer priorities to reduce burnout and increase impact.
• Leadership growth at work benefits life outside of work.