Wade Foster (CEO) built Zapier into a profitable powerhouse without traditional VC funding—just $1M post-YC, then profitable ever since. On this episode, the co-founder and CEO shares how that capital discipline shaped their ability to pivot hard when AI hit.

Wade also dishes on:

• The GPT-4 moment that shifted Zapier's roadmap

• A tested formula for AI agents that actually work

• How to incentivize internal AI adoption

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Chapters:

00:00 Introduction: Wade Foster and the Age of Agents

02:38 Zapier's Origin: Solving the SaaS Integration Problem

04:14 From Zaps to Agents: The Evolution of Automation

05:07 How GPT-4 Changed Zapier's Internal Strategy

06:43 Unstructured Data and the Rise of Vibe Building

09:56 Why Long-Term Product Roadmaps Are Now Obsolete

13:00 Transitioning from PLG to Enterprise Amidst Competition

17:58 What Actually Works: Defining Successful Agentic Workflows

20:59 Building an AI-Literate Company Culture

26:18 Future Outlook: AI Bubbles vs. Product Reality

27:38 Navigating Board Expectations During Technology Shifts

30:23 Zapier's Capital Efficiency and Fundraising History

33:58 Founder Advice: Prioritizing Long-Term Thinking