Dr. John Matthias and Colby sit down to discuss "The Lori Vallow Interview"// The Scar Wars Podcast EP4. This episode originally aired on Colby J. Ryan's YouTube channel on 10/14/24.

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Lauren Matthias was a television reporter for a decade and has followed the Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell case since 2019. She and her husband, Dr. John Matthias, a criminal psychologist, started Hidden True Crime in 2020 with their Season, 'Beyond the Veil,' a psychological deep dive into the doomsday murders and prophet.

What started as a simple conversation at their dinner table became a captivating podcast. Join the dynamic duo of Dr. John Matthias, a forensic psychologist, and Lauren Matthias, an investigative journalist, as they delve into the psychological facets of unthinkable crimes every week. Their unique perspectives and in-depth analysis offer a fresh take on true crime storytelling.

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FULL INTERVIEW LINK: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehA9_N6u3yg

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About Hidden True Crime:

Lauren Matthias was a television reporter for a decade and has followed the Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell case since 2019. She and her husband, Dr. John Matthias, a criminal psychologist, started Hidden True Crime in 2020 with their Season, 'Beyond the Veil,' a psychological deep dive into the doomsday murders and prophet.

What started as a simple conversation at their dinner table became a captivating podcast. Join the dynamic duo of Dr. John Matthias, a forensic psychologist, and Lauren Matthias, an investigative journalist, as they delve into the psychological facets of unthinkable crimes every week. Their unique perspectives and in-depth analysis offer a fresh take on true crime storytelling.

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About Hidden True Crime:

Lauren Matthias was a television reporter for a decade and has followed the Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell case since 2019. She and her husband, Dr. John Matthias, a criminal psychologist, started Hidden True Crime in 2020 with their Season, 'Beyond the Veil,' a psychological deep dive into the doomsday murders and prophet.

What started as a simple conversation at their dinner table became a captivating podcast. Join the dynamic duo of Dr. John Matthias, a forensic psychologist, and Lauren Matthias, an investigative journalist, as they delve into the psychological facets of unthinkable crimes every week. Their unique perspectives and in-depth analysis offer a fresh take on true crime storytelling.

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About Hidden True Crime:

Lauren Matthias was a television reporter for a decade and has followed the Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell case since 2019. She and her husband, Dr. John Matthias, a criminal psychologist, started Hidden True Crime in 2020 with their Season, 'Beyond the Veil,' a psychological deep dive into the doomsday murders and prophet.

What started as a simple conversation at their dinner table became a captivating podcast. Join the dynamic duo of Dr. John Matthias, a forensic psychologist, and Lauren Matthias, an investigative journalist, as they delve into the psychological facets of unthinkable crimes every week. Their unique perspectives and in-depth analysis offer a fresh take on true crime storytelling.

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We interviewed the parents of Stephan Sterns. Sterns is charged with sexually abusing & murdering 13-yr-old Maddie Soto. Our thoughts and analysis of their interview, the controversy, your questions, and how the interview happened.

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About Hidden True Crime:

Lauren Matthias was a television reporter for a decade and has followed the Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell case since 2019. She and her husband, Dr. John Matthias, a criminal psychologist, started Hidden True Crime in 2020 with their Season, 'Beyond the Veil,' a psychological deep dive into the doomsday murders and prophet.

What started as a simple conversation at their dinner table became a captivating podcast. Join the dynamic duo of Dr. John Matthias, a forensic psychologist, and Lauren Matthias, an investigative journalist, as they delve into the psychological facets of unthinkable crimes every week. Their unique perspectives and in-depth analysis offer a fresh take on true crime storytelling.

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About Hidden True Crime:

Lauren Matthias was a television reporter for a decade and has followed the Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell case since 2019. She and her husband, Dr. John Matthias, a criminal psychologist, started Hidden True Crime in 2020 with their Season, 'Beyond the Veil,' a psychological deep dive into the doomsday murders and prophet.

What started as a simple conversation at their dinner table became a captivating podcast. Join the dynamic duo of Dr. John Matthias, a forensic psychologist, and Lauren Matthias, an investigative journalist, as they delve into the psychological facets of unthinkable crimes every week. Their unique perspectives and in-depth analysis offer a fresh take on true crime storytelling.

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In 2014, the devastating murder of acclaimed law professor, Dan Markel, rocked the community in Tallahassee. Who would want Dan dead, and why? Dan's murder went unsolved for years, but finally, several arrests were made, and a shocking murder-for-hire scheme was exposed.

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About Hidden True Crime:

Lauren Matthias was a television reporter for a decade and has followed the Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell case since 2019. She and her husband, Dr. John Matthias, a criminal psychologist, started Hidden True Crime in 2020 with their Season, 'Beyond the Veil,' a psychological deep dive into the doomsday murders and prophet.

What started as a simple conversation at their dinner table became a captivating podcast. Join the dynamic duo of Dr. John Matthias, a forensic psychologist, and Lauren Matthias, an investigative journalist, as they delve into the psychological facets of unthinkable crimes every week. Their unique perspectives and in-depth analysis offer a fresh take on true crime storytelling.

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Pretty Lies And Alibis:

Charlie & Donna Adelson - 1st Call After The Bump

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsNkv8i1h0w

2nd Call After The Bump ... Charlie has questions

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yv485P07eD4

HLN- Listen: 911 call in law professor shooting released

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLjSTe3bI1s

Law & Crime Network

Charlie Adelson’s Sister Breaks Down During Police Interrogation About Ex-Husband's Murder

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7n8CkJfUMA

Bodycam: Donna Adelson Arrested at Airport for In-Law’s Murder, Sits Emotionless in Cop Car

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quE4jUiei_k

Tallahassee Democrat

Jurors see 'The Bump,' an undercover operation targeting suspects in the Dan Markel murder

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKLY1i2IqAk

TRANSCRIPT: Secret recording of Charlie Adelson released, led to arrest in Dan Markel murder case

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtXgTrzfLNk

Deep Dive True Crime- An INSANELY Detailed Timeline of Dan Markel's Last Day

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbZq4JI_Erc

Court TV

Charlie & Donna Phone Call

https://youtu.be/dys8DIUfFL0?si=OF2IAPGUaZ862EHc

Jeff Testimony

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NH-xmM5p6jA

Brittany Kleinpeter

Luis Confession

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wbm1nIC40P0

Brother Counsel

Wendi Adelson- Evidence of Perjury! Is it enough to convict? Trial Lawyer explains!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29M1TaXKxB8

Misha Janice

Three Trials, One Truth | Lawyer Reviews Wendi Adelson’s Testimony: Immunity

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EENOstggv68

WTXL - Tallahassee, FL

Donna Adelson's trial delayed as her attorney withdraws; see what happens next

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnvey-bgmqE

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Lauren Matthias and Dr. John Matthias of Hidden True Crime sit down with Chris and Debra Sterns, the parents of Stephan Sterns, to share their story for the first time.

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Case Background:

Madeline Soto was a 13-year-old girl living in Kissimmee, Florida. She was initially reported missing on February 26, 2024, after her mom, Jennifer Soto, went to pick her up from school and Madeline was nowhere to be found.

At the time, Jennifer Soto told police that Madeline was dropped off across the street from her school in a church parking lot by her mom's long-time/live-in boyfriend, Stephan Sterns. Stephan Sterns said he watched Madeline walk from the church parking lot towards the school but didn't watch Madeline walk all the way to see that she made it in.

A massive 4-day search effort by multiple law enforcement agencies to find Madeline quickly ensued.

In the immediate aftermath of her disappearance, investigators turned their attention to Stephan Sterns. Law enforcement found several disturbing pictures and videos on his phone of Madeline. He was later arrested on 60 charges, including capital sexual battery, lewd or lascivious molestation, and unlawful possession of materials depicting sexual performance by a child.

Tragically, on March 1, 2024, Madeline was found deceased near a wooded area on Hickory Tree Rd. in Osceola County. This is the same area where Stephan Sterns's car was reported as being seen on the day Madeline went missing.

Through several press conferences and news statements, law enforcement has stated that they believe that Madeline was already dead the morning she disappeared and that Stephan Sterns was actually moving her body at the time he was supposed to take her to school.

Police also revealed that security footage shows Stephan Sterns dumping Madeline's backpack and her school laptop in an apartment complex dumpster at 7:35 am that morning. Additionally, police have video footage of Stephan Sterns returning to the dumpster, with what appears to be Madeline visibly deceased in the car.

In April of 2024, Stephan Sterns was indicted on first-degree murder by a grand jury. On June 10, 2024, prosecutors announced that they will be seeking the death penalty against Stephan Sterns for Madeline's murder.

About Hidden True Crime:

Lauren Matthias was a television reporter for a decade and has followed the Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell case since 2019. She and her husband, Dr. John Matthias, a criminal psychologist, started Hidden True Crime in 2020 with their Season, 'Beyond the Veil,' a psychological deep dive into the doomsday murders and prophet.

What started as a simple conversation at their dinner table became a captivating podcast. Join the dynamic duo of Dr. John Matthias, a forensic psychologist, and Lauren Matthias, an investigative journalist, as they delve into the psychological facets of unthinkable crimes every week. Their unique perspectives and in-depth analysis offer a fresh take on true crime storytelling.

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Resources/Sources/Links:

New York Times Article:

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/09/us/tim-ballard-sound-of-freedom-sex-trafficking.html

Ryan Fisher & Carah Burrell

https://www.youtube.com/@CarahBurrell

Tim Ballard Lawsuits on Patreon:

https://www.patreon.com/posts/tim-ballards-all-99128808?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link

PLAYLIST: Tim Ballard; O.U.R., Hidden True Crime

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PLAYLIST: Ruby Franke and Jodi Hildebrandt, Hidden True Crime:

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PLAYLIST: Chad Daybell/Lori Vallow, Beyond The Veil Season:

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnLc7I2gyWtSWYHlUVC7HH-HVfXCyCaYa&si=PVUxU0ZHk1mQcKcS

Heather Daybell, Sister-in-law to Chad Daybell: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoiFMYmrRRg

Ryan Fisher | Mormon Stories Podcast

https://youtu.be/0l-rqJyyF0g?si=Ea_xoSspnZrOOa2d

Visions of Glory Part 1, Mormon Stories/Hidden True Crime Collab https://www.youtube.com/live/9eyqYLlGwBk?si=rhtKwUBPG_csACDV

Prepper Mayhem, Mormon Stories/Hidden True Crime Collab https://www.youtube.com/live/a-6kT1w63QA?si=tIUJS6nqLuN04Tjx

Community Education Channel | Glenn Beck joins Operation Underground Railroad https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8JAe9ASvhk

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Case Background:

Madeline Soto was a 13-year-old girl living in Kissimmee, Florida. She was initially reported missing on February 26, 2024, after her mom, Jennifer Soto, went to pick her up from school and Madeline was nowhere to be found.

At the time, Jennifer Soto told police that Madeline was dropped off across the street from her school in a church parking lot by her mom's long-time/live-in boyfriend, Stephan Sterns. Stephan Sterns said he watched Madeline walk from the church parking lot towards the school but didn't watch Madeline walk all the way to see that she made it in.

A massive 4-day search effort by multiple law enforcement agencies to find Madeline quickly ensued.

In the immediate aftermath of her disappearance, investigators turned their attention to Stephan Sterns. Law enforcement found several disturbing pictures and videos on his phone of Madeline. He was later arrested on 60 charges, including capital sexual battery, lewd or lascivious molestation, and unlawful possession of materials depicting sexual performance by a child.

Tragically, on March 1, 2024, Madeline was found deceased near a wooded area on Hickory Tree Rd. in Osceola County. This is the same area where Stephan Sterns's car was reported as being seen on the day Madeline went missing.

Through several press conferences and news statements, law enforcement has stated that they believe that Madeline was already dead the morning she disappeared and that Stephan Sterns was actually moving her body at the time he was supposed to take her to school.

Police also revealed that security footage shows Stephan Sterns dumping Madeline's backpack and her school laptop in an apartment complex dumpster at 7:35 am that morning. Additionally, police have video footage of Stephan Sterns returning to the dumpster, with what appears to be Madeline visibly deceased in the car.

In April of 2024, Stephan Sterns was indicted on first-degree murder by a grand jury. On June 10, 2024, prosecutors announced that they will be seeking the death penalty against Stephan Sterns for Madeline's murder.

About Hidden True Crime:

Lauren Matthias was a television reporter for a decade and has followed the Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell case since 2019. She and her husband, Dr. John Matthias, a criminal psychologist, started Hidden True Crime in 2020 with their Season, 'Beyond the Veil,' a psychological deep dive into the doomsday murders and prophet.

What started as a simple conversation at their dinner table became a captivating podcast. Join the dynamic duo of Dr. John Matthias, a forensic psychologist, and Lauren Matthias, an investigative journalist, as they delve into the psychological facets of unthinkable crimes every week. Their unique perspectives and in-depth analysis offer a fresh take on true crime storytelling.

Thank you for your support through sponsorships, subscribing, listening, and becoming a Patreon member at Patreon.com/HiddenTrueCrime

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