Another pre-trial hearing is in the books for Lori and WOW... IT. WAS. WILD!

Lauren is here with a full recap to tell you everything you need to know!

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What started as a simple conversation at their dinner table became a captivating podcast. Join the dynamic duo of Dr. John Matthias, a criminal psychologist, and Lauren Matthias, an investigative journalist, as they delve into the psychological facets of unthinkable crimes every week. Their unique perspectives and in-depth analysis offer a fresh take on true crime storytelling.

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In April of 2025, Marcia Norman was reported as missing. What would come next is something no one expected... Join Lauren as she breaks the story down in preparation for Criminal Psychologist Dr. John Matthias, to give his analysis on the next episode.

About Hidden True Crime:

What started as a simple conversation at their dinner table became a captivating podcast. Join the dynamic duo of Dr. John Matthias, a criminal psychologist, and Lauren Matthias, an investigative journalist, as they delve into the psychological facets of unthinkable crimes every week. Their unique perspectives and in-depth analysis offer a fresh take on true crime storytelling.

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The fight isn’t over. Lori Vallow Daybell wants a retrial—but prosecutors just hit back hard. In this episode, we dive into their fiery response, the high-stakes arguments, and what it all means.

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What started as a simple conversation at their dinner table became a captivating podcast. Join the dynamic duo of Dr. John Matthias, a criminal psychologist, and Lauren Matthias, an investigative journalist, as they delve into the psychological facets of unthinkable crimes every week. Their unique perspectives and in-depth analysis offer a fresh take on true crime storytelling.

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In July of 2024, 42-year-old Nikki Loffredo was shot while out on a walk, after rejecting catcalling by James Bernard Johnson. Join Dr. John and Lauren as they break down what happened and how this incident escalated from catcalling to murder within seconds.

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What started as a simple conversation at their dinner table became a captivating podcast. Join the dynamic duo of Dr. John Matthias, a criminal psychologist, and Lauren Matthias, an investigative journalist, as they delve into the psychological facets of unthinkable crimes every week. Their unique perspectives and in-depth analysis offer a fresh take on true crime storytelling.

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In this episode, juror #12 from the Lori Vallow Daybell trial talks with Lauren, discussing the disturbing evidence, emotional toll, and chilling moments from her time on the jury pool. I

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Well, just when we thought we were getting closer to being done with Lori Daybell, she threw a wrench in that plan. She filed an explosive new motion for a retrial and Lauren is here to break it all down for you.

Full Lori Backstory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_JA8-XnTtA

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What started as a simple conversation at their dinner table became a captivating podcast. Join the dynamic duo of Dr. John Matthias, a criminal psychologist, and Lauren Matthias, an investigative journalist, as they delve into the psychological facets of unthinkable crimes every week. Their unique perspectives and in-depth analysis offer a fresh take on true crime storytelling.

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Lauren is joined by Carl, a juror in the latest trial of Lori Vallow Daybell to discuss why he thought she was innocent, and the texts that changed everything for him.

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What started as a simple conversation at their dinner table became a captivating podcast. Join the dynamic duo of Dr. John Matthias, a criminal psychologist, and Lauren Matthias, an investigative journalist, as they delve into the psychological facets of unthinkable crimes every week. Their unique perspectives and in-depth analysis offer a fresh take on true crime storytelling.

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If you thought Lori Daybell was done... think again! She has once again sat down with Arizona Family's Briana Whitney to give a post-conviction interview and it was a wild ride! Dr. John and Lauren were lucky enough to have Briana herself come on today as a guest to help break down Lori's interview, what the things she said really mean, and what Briana thought of her interview with Lori as a whole.

Briana Whitney:

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What started as a simple conversation at their dinner table became a captivating podcast. Join the dynamic duo of Dr. John Matthias, a criminal psychologist, and Lauren Matthias, an investigative journalist, as they delve into the psychological facets of unthinkable crimes every week. Their unique perspectives and in-depth analysis offer a fresh take on true crime storytelling.

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Tass Reed-Tucker, known as juror 8 in the Lori Daybell trial, has graciously sat down with HTC to talk about being a juror on Lori's latest trial, what some of the big moments were, and what helped the jury decide their verdict.

About Hidden True Crime:

What started as a simple conversation at their dinner table became a captivating podcast. Join the dynamic duo of Dr. John Matthias, a criminal psychologist, and Lauren Matthias, an investigative journalist, as they delve into the psychological facets of unthinkable crimes every week. Their unique perspectives and in-depth analysis offer a fresh take on true crime storytelling.

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After a guilty verdict, Charles Vallow's brother Gerry sits down with Lauren to talk about what this verdict means for him, his thoughts on Lori, and his plans for his victim impact statement.

**This episode contains explicit language

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What started as a simple conversation at their dinner table became a captivating podcast. Join the dynamic duo of Dr. John Matthias, a criminal psychologist, and Lauren Matthias, an investigative journalist, as they delve into the psychological facets of unthinkable crimes every week. Their unique perspectives and in-depth analysis offer a fresh take on true crime storytelling.

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