Divorce isn’t just emotional — it can turn into psychological warfare.

In this livestream, I sit down with Chris and Lisa from Been There Got Out, two of the most experienced voices I’ve spoken with on high-conflict divorce, legal abuse, and custody battles.

We dig into:

Why “being a good guy” often backfires in family court

How false allegations gain traction (and why men are especially vulnerable)

The biggest mistakes men make when communicating with their ex

Why courts reward cooperation — even when the other side is acting insane

Parallel parenting vs co-parenting (and what NOT to call it in court)

How manipulators weaponize kids, restraining orders, and the legal system

What to do if you’re terrified of custody evaluations or taking the stand

Chris and Lisa don’t deal in theory. They deal with the worst cases — the ones that never “cool off” and never resolve on their own.

If you’re in a contentious divorce, haven’t seen your kids, or feel like the system is stacked against you, this conversation will give you clarity, grounding, and practical direction.

👉 Learn more about Chris and Lisa’s work at https://beentheregotout.com
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This is one of those conversations every man should hear before things get ugly.