I'm on holidays this week so there's no news catch-up but I took advantage of having a little bit of extra time to have great chat with author Emilie Pine about her new book Ruth & Pen. We talk about fertility, imposter syndrome, sharing personal trauma in public space and much more. Emilie is great.

Then, Cassie Delaney and I seize the opportunity to get into the Depp vs. Heard defamation case. From the way it's being consumed to the way it's being sold, and the way people are responding to it. We had lots to say! I'll be back with a normal episode next week!

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