Hollie Davidson is the first woman to referee a men’s Six Nations match and the first person to ref back to back Women’s Rugby World Cup Finals! She takes Elma and Scaz inside the pressure, preparation and reality of officiating at the top level… and unpicks what it’s taken to shatter glass ceiling after glass ceiling. Whistle malfunctions, hacked ref mics, Made In Chelsea club nights and training like Taylor Swift; as usual, Hollie’s got some surprises up her sleeve.

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