George Kirby will get the ball in Game 5 for the Mariners, but how long will he go? Who else will pitch? Will any starters pitch out of the bullpen? Brock and Salk discuss. Mariners Insider Shannon Drayer then joins the show to share her thoughts on Game 5, who could be available, the key to beating Tarik Skubal and more. In Blue 88, topics include what the Jaguars will present defensively to the Seahawks that's different than the other teams they've faced, one Seahawk who could be playing for his short term and long term career on Sunday and Jedd Fisch rumors about taking the UCLA job.