This week, we’re bringing you something special – our first-ever cross over bonus episode.

In this bonus episode, Collins sits down with Phil Treadwell, the vice president of development and regional manager at Mason-McDuffie, who also happens to be the host of fellow Industry Syndicate podcast the Mortgage Marketing Expert.

The two discuss Collins’ evolution within the mortgage industry, as well as HousingWire’s emergence as a top industry publication. Additionally, Treadwell and Collins touch base on some of the industry’s hottest topics, ranging from recession fear, mortgage rates, first-time homebuyers and more.