How Long Gone

Heidi Bivens is a costume designer and producer from New York. She's worked on infamous films over the years and currently does Euphoria, which her thoughtful new book, Euphoria Fashion, thoroughly explores. We chat about Chris down south, Frank-182, they were selling merch at the Fear Of God fashion show, I heard you guys like to rib, the Maroon 5 Halloween party, why she moved upstate, what kind of pickup truck she drives, set crushes, can a prop-stylist pull a lead? Chris needs to figure out a bag situation, laptops ruined the briefcase, personality traits of a designer, the art of fashion, Washinton D.C. is its own little void, Key West, Florida is just hot Alaska, and we debate how to fix fashion shows.

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Jason Nocito is a photographer from New York. We chat about Frank skating on thin ice, lets's agree to disagree on Blink-182 in 2023, iPads are giving "old guys rule," being a disruptor in the industry, life during tumblr-times, the AI Drake song is better than anything he's put out in a minute, obsolescence as a modern image maker, flying to Las Vegas to shoot AFI, his kid and Kid Laroi competing for quality time with pops, 80s NYHC, shooting with Lil Uzi while covered in blood, photographers vs. camera collectors, his desert island emo disc, a Wicca Phase Narcan situation, and a rundown of his childhood journey to photography.

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One-on-one pod, Chris is in New York, and Jason is in LA. We spend the first half of the show talking about Coachella from our living rooms, Chris is having a hard time dealing with Succession and Frank Ocean happening at the same time, and he'll be licking his wounds with Love is Blind, how long until the live stream renders IRL irrelevant, Coke crawled so Diet Coke could soar, Depeche Mode at MSG, a dinner at Monarch with some pod-alumni, come get this hug Aziz, some tour updates, Chris will not tolerate my sobriety, America can no longer tolerate experimental desserts, we reverse engineer why it's hard to get a res at Bar Cecil in Palm Springs, and we develop a new way of seating.

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Katie Parla is a Rome-based food writer and friend. Her new book, Food of the Italian Islands, is out now. We chat about some last-minute Coachella additions, new Ghia dropped, new anti-woke canned beer just dropped, Italian trap music, which drinking fountains have the best water in Rome, pizza for breakfast, her dad owned a wild game restaurant in New Jersey, the first thing she eats when she comes back to America, obviously Capri is over, what is the Tulum of Italy? The White Lotus effect, cooking to live vs. living to cook, TJ's Italian wedding takes place at the most expensive time to travel to Italy in the history of time, a few Islands that will become Tulum soon, every Sicilian drives with their left blinker on, and on her seventh cookbook, she's decided to self publish, and we break down how much that cost.

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Wednesday is a band from North Carolina. Their critically acclaimed new album, Rat Saw God, is out now on Dead Oceans. We spoke with Karly about Coachella coming up, There is Life After Influencing, her grandpa goes to bed at 4 am, a 9/11 money laundering Jewish Boarding School startup, when you become as smart as your parents, she doesn't respond to DMs but she'll write you a letter, a heinous nosebleed, she just watched a Motley Crue documentary and people don't live like that anymore, we explain what poppers are to her mom, her 80s mom, why she doesn't write songs on the road, she's an actual mysterious woman who goes to bed at 9:30, her first advance was $500, and sometimes you have to listen to death metal in the van.

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One-on-one episode, Chris is in New York, and Jason is home in LA. We figure out the last time we celebrated Easter, Vanderpump Emo Nite, white people walkthroughs, Linkin Park's remixed history, is therapy speak making us selfish? Traffic cones are the only things that should "hold space," why you're rewatching Entourage and Girls, hanging with Tim Apple at the GQ Creativity Awards, TJ had a Diet Mountain Dew dream, Taylor's breakup song, can musicians refinance their masters? And Chris and Jason switch dispositions.

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Sasha Spielberg, also known by her stage name Buzzy Lee, is an American actress and musician. Her new record, Internal Affairs, is out now. We chat with her about cufflinks, Chris' yearning for the South, our Vegas writing trip, throwing up while driving a car, the decimation of a NorCal tote bag, the unique ways she takes care of her husband, sandwich bread, her dad's submarine themed restaurant from the 90s, legacy Los Angeles dining, we're staying up until 2 am watching Vanderpump, reality TV makes her say the word "bitch" a lot now, her parents grounded her for life for smoking weed, growing up as a robotripping-poser-narc-teacher's pet, she would have never become a singer if it weren't for the Hebrew language, voice notes make us anxious, saving all her AIM chats on a hard drive, and her relationship with scent memory songwriting.

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The Walkmen are a band from New York about to embark on a reunion tour. We'll share the stage with them at the Just Like Heaven Festival in Los Angeles next month. We chat with Hamilton and Peter from the band about Trump's arrest being eclipsed by the Barbie movie, Bad Bunny rides again, beard trimming, Pete's a real bruiser in the paint, being a band that doesn't really high-five each other, living at the Carlyle Hotel for awhile, Pete's son met his girlfriend at a Napalm Death show, Glastonbury stories, some depressing sync talk, and what happened when they performed on The OC.

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One-on-one episode recorded live and uncut from Glendale. TJ is still on the mend, so go easy on him, we chat about Chris' lack of Sweetgreen credit, check on your barista because the new Boygenius dropped, a few odd things that we overheard at dinner, new guy dropped on Melrose, we dissect Huberman a bit, the problem with podcasts about learning, I drain my boyfriend's nuts 6-to-7 times per day, the genius and darkness of fake TikTok podcast clips to sell OnlyFans, the pandemic of country line dancing is infecting Los Angeles' east side, the post-pandemic nightlife is just fine in New York but not so much here, dinner with previous podcast guests Bret Ellis and Ryland Blackinton, Deadline for dick, Chris took a pressie at a cabin in his twenties and fell in the tub, and we try to figure out why the flag at the Trump golf course here in LA is currently flying at half-mast.

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The National is an American band whose new album, First Two Pages Of Frankenstein, is out soon. We spoke with Matt, their singer, from his home in Los Angeles about TJ's big night out in Brooklyn, Hi Chews and Red Vines, Matt comes out as a cat guy, mushroom exploration, The National is still waiting to play the Saudi Prince's bday party, which members of his band don't wear shoes, taking lessons on how to be an aging rocker from Morrissey and Nick Cave, that one time they played a show in Las Vegas while the AVN awards were happening, lo-fi beats to pole dance to, what he listens to when he smokes weed and rides his bike around Venice, we figure out where he's going to live next, TJ pitches a video concept for their new single, writing a breakup song with your wife whom you're currently happily married to, and some writer's blocks are bigger than others.

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