Anne Peterson spent years setting up seminars and working closely with Werner Erhard, the founder of est, The Forum, and Landmark Trust. Jon describes the Chinese thought reform program, which stimulates Anne to talk about the 'Advanced Course' (yes, Erhard peppered his teachings with Scientology expressions). A wide-ranging discussion touching on the similarities between Scientology and Erhard. Est was devised after he had dipped into Scientology and its offshoots.Links:More on the Bear Fedio IndexThe paper, The Discipling DilemmaMore on the Andrew Carnegie homestead floodHubbard's affirmationsAnne's interview with Brandon HurstMore on Darren Mack and the murder of Charla Mack