If your business can’t run without you, it’s not a business - it’s a bottleneck. Barry Hartman built 505-Junk into a 7-figure operation because he built leaders - not just labor. In this episode, he shares the hard-won lessons behind building a leadership team that drives growth without bloated overhead.

✅ When to begin designing and building a leadership team (hint: sooner than you think)
✅ How to design roles that create ownership and eliminate confusion
✅ Why culture beats credentials in blue-collar leadership
✅ Where to find your next leader - inside your org or outside it

Timestamps: 
0:00 – Why this episode matters 
3:10 – How Barry knew it was time to build a team 
7:45 – Structure vs. people: what comes first? 
12:20 – Common mistakes contractors make in hiring leaders 
16:00 – How to map out a lean leadership org chart 
23:00 – Interviewing & onboarding: what really works 
28:40 – Culture tips for leading leaders 
33:50 – Closing advice from Barry Hartman 

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