In this episode of the Dysrupt Healthcare Podcast, host Lester J. Morales sits down with Heath Potter, Chief Growth Officer and founding member of Six Degrees Health, one of the leading innovators in reference-based pricing (RBP) and transparent cost-containment solutions.Heath shares how a personal family tragedy—his father’s life-changing injury—became the spark behind his mission to make healthcare affordable, transparent, and fair for every patient and employer.Together, Lester and Heath unpack how Six Degrees Health uses data, analytics, and negotiation—not litigation—to redefine RBP, allowing employers to save an average of 30–40 % on medical claim spend while improving member experience and access to care.From the evolution of RBP 1.0 to today’s member-first model, this episode explores:Why most employers are still overspending on healthcareThe myths about balance billing and access issuesHow transparency and independent negotiation build trust between plans and providersReal case studies where employers saved millions without sacrificing careIf you’re a self-funded employer, benefits advisor, or HR leader who’s ready to rethink healthcare costs, this conversation will show you what true disruption looks like.Dysrupt Healthcare Podcast (yes—with a Y) is where Lester J. Morales talks with leaders who are challenging the status quo of American healthcare.Each episode digs into the WHY—the purpose behind the movement—to make healthcare more transparent, affordable, and human.Timestamps00:00 – “This podcast has been disrupted”00:07 – Welcome to Dysrupt Healthcare: Why the Y matters00:52 – Meet Heath Potter, Chief Growth Officer at Six Degrees Health03:02 – The personal story that ignited a mission to fix healthcare04:26 – How transparent pricing helps families and employers05:36 – Real impact: saving $12 million for a client plan06:43 – A physical therapy story that proved the model works08:28 – Reference-Based Pricing (RBP) explained in simple terms10:56 – Lester’s $90K knee surgery example vs. RBP pricing13:34 – Why hospitals accept fair RBP rates15:40 – RBP 1.0 vs. the Six Degrees model: what’s changed18:21 – Data and analytics as the core of modern RBP21:10 – The real stats: 99 % claim acceptance rate first pass24:00 – How negotiations resolve balance bills without litigation26:10 – The next frontier of RBP: member access to care28:02 – Open access plans and real family examples31:00 – Average employer savings of 25–40 %32:54 – Sustainability and flattening the renewal curve34:50 – Case studies: firefighters, manufacturers, and local communities37:13 – Where to learn more and get a free savings analysis39:21 – Final message to employers: “These are real dollars, not smoke and mirrors”Connect with the GuestsGuest: Heath Potter – Chief Growth Officer, Six Degrees Health📧 [email protected]🔗 LinkedIn: Heath PotterHost: Lester J. MoralesFollow on LinkedIn, YouTube & Spotify for more conversations that #Dysrupt the status quo.