In this episode of Chloe vs The World, Chloe is joined by Ieuan Cooke for a full deep dive into the worlds of Wicked, The Hunger Games, Fourth Wing, and the many corners of BookTok they both obsess over. From fantasy worlds, romance tropes and smut scenes to rereading Twilight as adults, this one goes everywhere.

They break down why Wicked confused so many first-time viewers, who they’d cast in future Hunger Games films, and the book series that have taken over their lives this year. They get into Fourth Wing, A Court Of Thorns and Roses, dragons, fanfiction, reading habits, and the chaos of TikTok edits.

There’s plenty outside of books too - including rugby boy culture, animated character crushes, acting dreams, retail horror stories, star signs, Saturn Returns, and their most unhinged delulu moments. Ieuan shares his funniest DMs, his main character vision of life, what his “villain era” would look like, and why he once removed a tooth gem with a hammer.

They also chat Twilight (and why some scenes haven’t aged well), Bridgerton, Wicked casting, Les Mis, theatre recommendations, and the TV shows they’ve binged recently. Expect conversations about pop stars, celebrity crushes, TikTok trends, edits, music, and the corners of the internet they spend far too long on.

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