Stay tuned until the end of the episode for a special song by Paul Demer, titled "Do Not Pray to Politicians (Psalm 146)" -

 In this episode, Shane Claiborne hosts Rich Morales, a seasoned attorney and faith-based organizer, to discuss the critical issue of immigration in the United States. They delve into the moral imperatives of welcoming immigrants, policies under the current administration, and the power of grassroots and legal organizing. Rich shares his personal journey and professional work, highlighting the role of faith communities in advocating for the most vulnerable. The conversation also covers practical steps for local action, resources for support, and the spiritual and moral dimensions of immigration reform.