Lucinda Rouse and Andy Ricketts are joined by Zahra Hedges, chief executive of the youth empowerment charity Winning Scotland, and Helen Rafferty, senior programme manager at the education charity Shine.

Zahra explains how a theory of change has helped Winning Scotland to identify and prioritise its most fruitful activities and reassure its board and donors. She provides insight into how the charity has developed a more streamlined data collection process.

Helen describes how Shine is using a theory of change to make evaluation an integral and ongoing part of its programmes. She lays out the collaborative development process which enables stakeholders to reflect on and challenge assumptions.

Also in the episode, senior reporter Emily Harle shares snippets from her interview with Acevo’s chief executive, Jane Ide, in which they discuss pay and equality in the voluntary sector following the release of Acevo's Pay and Equalities Survey 2024.

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