On Land-Grant Holy Land In Conversation, we talk to people in and around Ohio State athletics, and the sporting world at large, to bring you a different insight and perspective to the teams, athletes, and university that you love.

On today’s episode, Matt Tamanini is in conversation with The Athletic's Stewart Mandel. In the interview, Stewart breaks down all of the latest rumors floating around proposed changes to the College Football Playoff.

Stewart also goes into the process of selecting The Athletic's top-25 college football programs and teams of the first 25 years of the century.

Connect with Stewart Mandel

⁠https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/author/stewart-mandel/⁠

Twitter: ⁠@slmandel⁠

Connect with Matt Tamanini

Online Portfolio: ⁠https://authory.com/MattTamanini⁠

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