On Land-Grant Holy Land In Conversation, we talk to people in and around Ohio State athletics, and the sporting world at large, to bring you a different insight and perspective to the teams, athletes, and university that you love.

On today’s episode, Matt Tamanini is in conversation with The Athletic's Stewart Mandel. In the interview, Stewart discusses what has changed for Ohio State to set them up for their epic first two College Football Playoff games, how special Jeremiah Smith has been thus far, and what both Texas and the Buckeyes will need to do to advance to the CFP finals.

Connect with Stewart Mandel

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/author/stewart-mandel/

Twitter: @slmandel

Connect with Matt Tamanini

Online Portfolio: https://authory.com/MattTamanini

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