It’s been way too long, so Kail and Becky finally sit down for a real catch-up and nothing is off limits. From seasonal depression and holiday heaviness to Kail’s entire house getting hit with influenza A, the girls get honest about what this time of year actually feels like behind the highlight reels.

Kail opens up about the emotional (and literal) weight of five-hour custody drives, missing kid events, and trying to hold it all together with seven kids and nonstop sports. Becky shares updates on baby Becks Florida travels, her changing relationship with motherhood, and why Miss Rachel absolutely counts as survival.

The conversation spirals (in the best way) into audiobook commitments, Barnes & Noble rebrands, kid milestones, performative good deeds, fake influencers, childhood letters to soldiers, and reminiscing on Becky's Uber days?

The girls celebrate Karma & Chaos taking home TWO Signal Awards! We can't thank you enough for your support!

An “Is It Karma or Is It Chaos?” listener write-in that sparks their first disagreement ever.

It’s chaotic. It’s comforting. It’s exactly why you’re here.

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