Today, Corinna and Ben speak with the psychiatrist Dr. Lauren Schwartz. Dr. Schwartz is a senior fellow with Do No Harm, the lead author of a 2025 paper on the health risks of estrogen use in males, and the coauthor of a chapter in Lawrence Krauss’s new anthology, The War on Science (“Gender-Affirming Care: The Abandonment of Medical and Academic Standards”).

* Arkansas ban stands

* Air Force reneges on retirement benefits

* DoE investigates Kansas

* “Emerging and accumulating safety signals for the use of estrogen

among transgender women”

* The War on Science

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Today we talk about the latest gender clinic closures and “pauses” on pediatric transition services and speculate about what the future holds for the young people who’ve been harmed by these practices. Who’s going to help them? How will they help them? Will anyone be held accountable for harming them? We discuss the case of Avery Jackson, the trans-identified boy who at age nine appeared on the cover of National Geographic’s 2017 “Gender Revolution” issue. Avery, medicalized at 11, is now in his late teens and identifies as nonbinary.

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* Leor’s piece on Meredithe McNamara

* Lisa’s piece on Avery Jackson

* “Gender Identity 5 Years After Social Transition”

* “I Transitioned My Child - I Regret It”

* NY Times article on blue state closures

* Chameleon’s Substack piece

* Ken Zucker

* My Mom Jayne

* Sandpipers

* Albion’s Seed: Four British Folkways in America

* Kandinsky art

* The End of October

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Today the gang discusses the Trump Administration’s severing of its partnership with the Trevor Project, as well as California Governor Gavin Newsom’s recent appearance on the Shawn Ryan Show. Plus news headlines, announcements, and more!

* Trump defunds the Trevor Project

* TP’s 2023 fiscal report

* Trump Admin cutting off federal funding to hospitals providing GAC for minors

* Newsom on the Shawn Ryan Show

* “Trans woman shares struggles from behind bars in Lorain County men’s prison”

* PATHWAYS study

* Cis White Gay: The Making of a Gender Heretic

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Cori, Jamie, and Sarah catch up on their gender-related travels, which took Jamie to Washington DC for the Federal Trade Commission workshop on consumer fraud in gender medicine and Cori and Sarah to France for the European Society for Child and Adolescent Psychiatry conference. We also discuss new research on sexual satisfaction and whether or not it's possible to improve on the French man-on-the-street by adding cowboy boots.

* Tune in to the full FTC workshop here

* Glenna Goldis on consumer fraud in gender medicine

* Hannah Barnes on problems with the UK's proposed puberty blocker trial

* Cori Cohn on Missing Evidence: Why We Still Don’t Know What Surgery Does to Puberty-Blocked Boys

* New preprint from the Dutch clinic: Sexual satisfaction and dysfunction in transgender adults following puberty suppression treatment during adolescence

* LGB Courage Coalition at the Endocrine Society conference

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Alex Byrne is the Laurance S. Rockefeller Professor of Philosophy at MIT and the author of the book Trouble with Gender: Sex Facts, Gender Fictions. Last week, Alex revealed in a Washington Post op-ed that he was one of the nine co-authors of the anonymous HHS report on pediatric gender medicine. He is married to the evolutionary biologist Carole Hooven.

CORRECTIONS: UPenn is restoring titles and records and issuing apologies to female athletes. Not Penn State. And it’s Title IX, not Title X.

* HHS report

* Executive Order 14187

* “In Defense of Transracialism,” Rebecca Tuvel

* “A Defense of ‘Transracial’ Identity Roils Philosophy World,” NY Times

* Material Girls: Why Reality Matters for Feminism, Kathleen Stock

* “What Is It like to Have a Gender Identity?,” Florence Ashley

* “Ashley on Gender Identity,” Alex Byrne

* “The Deposition of Jack Turban,” Leor Sapir

* The Man Who Would Be Queen, Michael Bailey

* Ray Blanchard’s transsexualism typology

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Maud Maron is running to be Manhattan’s next District Attorney “to restore safety and sanity to our streets and subways.” She’s also a mom of four children who are all NYC public school graduates or students.

Maud worked as a public defender for over two decades at the Legal Aid Society in the Manhattan and the Bronx criminal courts. She taught criminal law at Cardozo Law School and has a long track record as an education advocate who champions public school education in New York City. She is a fierce champion of free speech, and won a 1st Amendment case against the NYC Dept. of Education just last year. She writes for the New York Post and other publications.

* MaudforManhattan.com

* Maud’s writing for the NY Post

* “How I stood up for free speech — and won my case against NYC’s education censors”

* CEC D2 meeting on gender ideology in NYC public schools (YouTube)

* Ben’s Substack post about the CEC D2 meeting

* Alaina Daniels

* Mamdani’s “LGBTQIA+” platform

* Tomorrow, and Tomorrow, and Tomorrow

* Russian & Turkish Baths

* “How to Grow Leeks”

* Jurassic World: Rebirth

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Today we’re joined by very good friend of the pod, Leor Sapir!

Leor Sapir is a fellow at the Manhattan Institute. He holds a Ph.D. in Political Science from Boston College and completed a postdoctoral fellowship at the Program on Constitutional Government at Harvard University. Since joining MI, Sapir has become a widely recognized thought leader on topics related to pediatric gender medicine, education policy, and culture. Sapir is a regular contributor to City Journal, and he has co-authored amicus briefs for lawsuits on parental rights in education and is lead author of an important letter to the editor in the peer-reviewed academic journal, the Archives of Sexual Behavior, on “rapid onset gender dysphoria.”

* United States vs. Skrmetti

* Leor Sapir for City Journal

* The lost history of Christmas nobody cares about anymore - but should

* tomato cages

* The Catastrophe Hour

* Identity

* Special Interest

* Lost Christianities

* The Gnostic New Age

* Orthodoxy and Heresy in Early Christian Contexts

* Fashionable Nonsense

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We’ve decided to open up our polycule to guests! Today it’s Dr. Anna Hutchinson, the London-based clinical psychologist specializing in adolescent mental and physical health.

From 2013 to 2017, Dr. Hutchinson worked at the Tavistock Clinic’s Gender Identity Development Service (GIDS), where she observed first hand the significant shifts in patient demographics and referral rates. She raised concerns about the weak evidence base and clinical practices, contributing key insights to Time to Think by Hannah Barnes. Since leaving GIDS, Anna has continued to advocate for nuanced care for gender-distressed youth. She co-led the clinical induction training for Hilary Cass’s new Gender Hubs and is currently co-authoring a book with family therapist Anastassis Spiliadis on developmentally informed therapy for gender-related distress in children.

CORRECTION: NH Gov. Kelly Ayotte signed the parental rights bill, but as of June 13 she has not yet signed the bills banning puberty blockers, cross-sex hormones, and chest surgeries for minors. Apologies!

* NH GAC bills

* NH parental rights bill

* Gallup poll

* DOJ investigating Minnesota over trans softball athlete

* Riley and Simone

* Zoe Saldaña’s trans Oscar

* The Pissed Off Lawyer

* LA Children’s gender clinic shutting down

* The Protocol episode 5

* The Protocol episode 6

* “It feels like conversion therapy for gay children, say clinicians”

* The Wide Wide Sea

* Grillo’s Pickles

* Jane Austen: Rise of a Genius

* CIS WHITE GAY preorder links!

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On this special episode, we discuss part four of the New York Times’s six-part series about the history of pediatric gender medicine. Episode 4, “The Whistleblower,” is about Jamie Reed, who blew the whistle on the pediatric gender clinic at Washington University in St. Louis in 2023. Jamie tells us what the Times got right, what they left out, plus a whole lot more.

* “The Whistleblower”

* Jamie’s affidavit

* Jamie’s 2023 testimony in The Free Press

* Azeen’s 2023 NY Times piece about Jamie

* LGB Courage Coalition’s Substack post on bicalutamide

* “The Myth of Reliable Research”

* “The Dutch Protocol for Juvenile Transsexuals: Origins and Evidence”

* Cis White Gay: The Making of a Gender Heretic

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On Thursday evening, The New York Times released “The Protocol,” its highly anticipated podcast on the history of pediatric gender medicine. We do a deep-dive into the first two episodes of the six-part series: “The Beginning” and “The Gender Kids.”

* Olson-Kennedy study

* Olympus spa ruling

* CA trans athlete wins

* Loudon County update

* The Protocol

* Dept Q

* The Golden Notebook

* A Mother’s Reckoning

* Bluejay omens

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