In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, Seth “Creek” Creekmore and Ahmad Wazir speak with Flemming Christensen, founder and owner of THINK ABOUT IT and The Enneagram Institute of Denmark, about his work with the Enneagram. In this first part of the conversation, we get to know Flemming as he shares stories from his early career, the loss of loved ones, and his discovery of what he calls the “blind type.”

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Throughout the conversation, Flemming reflects on how his relationship with the Enneagram has evolved - from using it as a tool for consulting to embracing it as a mindset and spiritual practice. He also describes how his Zen Buddhist training has shaped his understanding of presence, awareness, and the deeper purpose of self-inquiry.

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Highlights from the episode include:

1. The Blind Enneagram Type

Flemming introduces the concept of the blind type—the type whose qualities we resist, ignore, or reject. He describes how discovering his own blind type transformed his relationships, softened his leadership style, and opened new dimensions in his teaching.

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2. Cultural Perspectives on Growth and Teaching

Flemming shares insights gained from working with Enneagram students from diverse cultural backgrounds. From Denmark to Egypt and the United States, he reflects on how cultural values such as equality, authority, and co-creation shape how people learn, teach, and engage in personal development.

3. The Enneagram as a Mindset

Rather than viewing the Enneagram as just a personality tool, Flemming describes it as a mindset for living. Influenced by Buddhist psychology, he explains how the Enneagram can support presence, surrender, and the capacity to meet life as it is.

Tune in for a thoughtful conversation about depth, loss, integration, and what it means to live an Enneagram-informed life.

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In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we continue listening to Gina Thomas’s presentation about her study that studies the archetypes and their connections with the Enneagram. Gina is an Enneagram teacher who bridges the field with depth psychology, which studies myth, dream and symbol as a way to understand the psyche and she conducted four interviews with 13 focus groups, asking the participants to illustrate their type. She explores the transcendent function for Enneagram Types Six, Three and Four by interpreting each participant’s drawings.

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Study: Archetype and Imagery in the Enneagram

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In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we listen to a presentation by Gina Thomas, MA, an Enneagram teacher who bridges the field with depth psychology, which studies myth, dream and symbol as a way to understand the psyche. Gina talks about her study that studies archetypes and their connections with the Enneagram through her four interviews with 13 focus groups. She initially focused on Enneagram Types Three, Six and Nine for her master’s thesis and then continued her research on the remaining types after she received her degree. She shares the imagery she asked the participants to create to illustrate their type as a result of their facilitated conversations.

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In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we continue Lisa Morrice’s discussion about the passions by looking at the qualities from the thinking center. This center is about being present in our mind and having the awareness to be mentally still and receptive to insight, intuition and not knowing. Lisa talks about three ways the essential qualities of this center can manifest when they’re present and also the four principles for transforming the passions.

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In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we listen to a talk from Lisa Morrice about the passions—a recurring emotional pattern associated with our personality types. When we’re not aware of them, they run us pretty much all the time, making us forget ourselves on a fundamental level. Lisa explains how it helps to understand the passions from the three centers by looking at the qualities. She also discusses how the passions play out in each type.

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In this special collaborative episode with the IEA Podcast, Do It for The Gram and Fathoms, Milton Stewart, Seth “Creek” Creekmore, Lindsey Marks and Lee Fields preview the upcoming IEA Enneagram Experience 2025 - Global Conference and Celebration. All four hosts will be in attendance, so they share what they are looking forward to at this summer’s annual event while also reflecting on this year’s theme — 30 years honoring Enneagram pioneers and future frontiers.

The Fathoms team will continue to host the IEA podcast with the traditional long form interviews with legendary figures as well as collect personal stories from attendees to deeply humanize this work. In their current Season Five, Fathoms has been focusing on the history of the Enneagram from the perspective of different schools and models to get a fuller picture of how they’ve come into this tool, providing an important and better framework and grounding before the conference.

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In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we continue Renee Rosario’s conversation about using mindfulness with the Enneagram, which is a great tool to open us up to greater wisdom and help us make better choices. Renee invites two people from each center—heart, head and body—to share what they bring to inner practice and what challenges them.

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In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we listen to a talk from Renee Rosario about using mindfulness with the Enneagram to gain greater clarity with what’s happening inside. Mindfulness is a great tool to transform things and opens us up to greater wisdom. Renee explains the three skills that are essential to mindfulness—concentration, sensory clarity and equanimity—and how this can help us make better choices and develop new pathways before leading the group in an inner practice. She then invites a panel consisting of two people from each center—heart, head and body—to share what they noticed when they work with mindfulness and their bodies.

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In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we listen to a talk from IEA Conference 2009 by Dr Jerome “Jerry” Wagner about Alfred Adler, founder of the school of individual psychology. Jerry explains Adler’s theory that emphasizes on the uniqueness of each person and social dimensions, comparing it to Freud, and its relevance with the Enneagram.

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The Enneagram and the Individual: Psychology of Alfred Adler by Jerry Wagner

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This episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast is another part of the multi-type series about instincts, instinctual biases and subtypes with well-known teachers–Beatrice Chestnut, Russ Hudson, Peter O’Hanrahan and Mario Sikora. They focus on answering audience questions on topics such as the three centers and levels of development. The four instructors also share personal experiences with their dominant instinct and what they’ve learned about themselves from this series.

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Peter O'Hanrahan:

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