The Thinking Mind Podcast: Psychiatry & Psychotherapy

Interview #29: Changing your Perspective to Change your Life with The Speakmans


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Nik and Eva Speakman are British therapists and life coaches. They have studied and worked together since 1992 sharing a passion to help people lead happier and less inhibited lives. They have formulated their own psychotherapeutic interventions including (among others) Schema Conditioning Psychotherapy, which are now also the subject of scientific research. They are resident therapists on ITV’s  ‘This Morning’ for over a decade and have had their own shows, one of which, ‘The Speakmans’, also aired on ITV.

Liv Speakman is a psychology and neuroscience graduate from Oxford University working with Nik and Eva  on research into the Speakmans work at Utrecht university in the Netherlands.

In this episode we discuss phobias and fears, Nik and Eva's journey to becoming therapists, changing your perspective on reality, remain open-minded to new interventions, the importance of scientific research in psychotherapy and many other topics. In addition - Rebecca gets free therapy and changes her mind about pigeons. It was wild.

Studies relating to the Speakmans work can be found here:

Studies 1 & 2
Published November 2018 – Journal of Behavior Therapy & Experimental Psychiatry
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/329229873_Effects_of_Visual_Schema_Displacement_Therapy_VSDT_an_abbreviated_EMDR_protocol_and_a_control_condition_on_emotionality_and_vividness_of_aversive_memories_Two_critical_analogue_studies

Study 3
Published 9 April 2021 – European Journal of Psychotraumataology
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/20008198.2021.1883924

Books mentioned in this podcast:
Psycho-cybernetics by Maxwell Maltz M.D. (1960)

Interviewed by Dr. Rebecca Wilkinson with Dr. Alex Curmi and Dr. Anya Borissova 

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