Pat Carroll joins Brad to look at his career in running, making the transition from karate into running, recounting his inspiration from Rob De Castella, what training and nutrition for marathons involved back in his prime and highlights balancing his apprenticeship in cabinet making with winning the Gold Coast marathon.

Pat talks about who he likes in the current crop of distance running and his opinions on what they need to succeed to be top marathoners before setting most of his personal bests in domestic racing and then recounts his best marathons at Beppu-Oita and Lake Biwa in Japan only to deal with the absurd politics involved with organisers, Athletics Australia and the Olympic selection process.

The conversation wraps up with the transition from athlete to coaching and getting involved with charity fundraising and emceeing events to engage with the wider running community.

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