August 28, 2025

Intimacy, Healing and "Sand in the System" with Kosha Joubert.

1 hour 4 minutes

Hosted by Rosemary Davies-Janes. Produced by J’aime Rothbard.

This heart-felt conversation arcs from the pain of apartness to the healing power of connectedness. Kosha shares her personal journey, which led her from the cognitive and somatic dissonance of enforced separation (apartheid) to the synchronicity of inter-connection.

She also explains how: - Human love and connection can change systems from the bottom-up - Witnessing eco-communities’ good intentions and dedication to restoring relationships with nature, social systems, cultures, and economies led her to, “fall in love with our world and humanity” - Underlying limitations manifesting as unresolved conflicts can block us from reaching our full potential. - The Pocket Project creates pockets of intimacy—with ourselves, others, and the world. - Global Social Witnessing moves from "cold data" (mental processing that fosters separation and polarization) to "warm data" (embodied, relational understanding). - The collaboration of healing movements supports widespread bridge building and waters the seeds of cocreation in the “super juicy" spaces between their different approaches.

In conclusion, Kosha emphasizes the need to address the "sand in our systems;" those subtle, persistent particles of conflict and resistance that hinder collective flourishing. She encourages us to love “our sand” and allow it to settle so that our waters can clear themselves and light can stream in.

About Kosha Joubert, CEO, the Pocket Project

An expert international coach and facilitator, Kosha has worked in systems regeneration, organizational development and intercultural collaboration in 48+ countries. In her current role, she works closely with Pocket Project co-founder, Thomas Hübl, and a global team. Together they are growing a culture of trauma-informed care by focusing on the emergence of collective wisdom, trauma-informed leadership and post-traumatic growth. She co-hosted the “Power of Collective Wisdom Conference” with Thomas in Berlin in 2008, and continues to co-host the annual Collective Trauma Online Summit.

Kosha has also authored several books and received the Dadi Janki Award (2017) for engaging spirituality in life and work, and the One World Award (2020) for building the Global Ecovillage Network to a worldwide movement reaching out to over 6000 communities on all continents.

Kosha holds degrees in Cultural Anthropology, Linguistics and Organisational Development and has studied with Thomas Hübl since 2005. She grew up in South Africa under Apartheid and has been dedicated to healing divides and collective trauma ever since. When she is not traveling, she enjoys living amidst nature's beauty in Findhorn, Scotland.

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