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Introverts in the LDS Church | An Interview with Adam McHugh


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Adam McHugh is a spiritual director, chaplain, speaker, and retreat leader. The author of Introverts in the Church: Finding Our Place in an Extroverted Culture, he is an ordained Presbyterian minister, having earned a Masters of Divinity and Masters of Theology in Greek New Testament from Princeton Theological Seminary. He is also the author of The Listening Life: Embracing Attentiveness in a World of Distraction, and lives in Santa Barbara, California.
Episode Highlights
4:30 Becoming an ordained minister
7:30 What led to writing Introverts in the Church
10:50 Explanation of introversion and extroversion
16:00 Problems that introverts experience at church
19:00 Understanding the discomfort of personal vulnerability and sharing beliefs as an expression of faith
22:00 Introverts generally prefer depth over breadth
24:00 The power of listening: experience at a hospital
30:00 Introverts and small talk
34:00 How introverts approach dealing with conflict and decisions
40:00 Silence, reverence, and the internal experience compared to active social environments
45:20 Cultural clash of introvert and extrovert leaders: overcoming stereotypes and encouraging introverts to be leaders
48:50 Reaching out to invite introverts to participate
Links

* Adam's Website
* Introverts in the Church: Finding Our Place in an Extroverted Culture
* The Listening Life: Embracing Attentiveness in a World of Distraction

Interview Transcript
LS: Today we are communicating with Adam McHugh in California. How are you, Adam?

ADAM: Doing very well. How about yourself?

LS: Very good. Did I say your last name correctly?

ADAM: You got it.

LS: All right. Very nice, very nice. Now, you are, tell us (00:04:00) a little bit about what we need about know about you. The big thing I guess on this podcast we generally have LDS or Mormons on as guests, but you are not a Mormon. So what are you?

ADAM: It is true. I am an ordained Presbyterian minister. Though in truth I go to an Episcopal church.

LS: Nice.

ADAM: But I was ordained in the Presbyterian church about 12 years ago.

LS: Nice. And so what is the, when you say you're ordained, (00:04:30) what does that mean? Does that mean you went to seminary for awhile or what does that even mean?

ADAM: It means they made me jump through about a thousand hoops, is basically what that means. I went to Princeton theological seminary and that is required for ordination, not Princeton. But going to seminary, getting a master's of divinity. I also stuck around for another year and got a masters of theology and Greek New Testament as well and had to do 2 church internships and one internship at a hospital as a chaplain, was actually (00:05:00) very instrumental in my future calling. And yeah. And then I had to go to about a thousand meetings in order to get approved.

LS: Wow. Wow. Intense.

ADAM: It was a, I would never do it again. I'm glad I was young when I went through all that because now it sounds exhausting.

LS: So does that mean, I mean, your day to day or are you some type of pastor to a church or what's your day to day job now?

ADAM: I have the title now, you know, writer and speaker and retreat leader (00:05:30) is really how I identify myself and certainly connected to churches and...
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