What the rise of Andrew Tate tells us about modern masculinity and the media, with the VICE journalist who investigated him. Andrew and Tristan Tate both deny the allegations against them.

Guests: Matt Shea, journalist for VICE World News's The Dangerous Rise of Andrew Tate, Helen Lewis, staff writer at The Atlantic and presenter of The New Gurus on BBC Sounds, and Professor Scott Galloway, host of the Prof G Pod and co-host of the Pivot podcast.

Presenter: Ros Atkins

Producer: Helen Fitzhenry

Image credit: Scene from VICE World News's The Dangerous Rise of Andrew Tate, produced and directed by Jamie Tahsin.