Joe is joined by Ian Madigan to break down Ireland's chastening defeat to the Springboks and to discuss whether Andy Farrell's side are still at rugby's top table. Scrum problems, discipline woes and an inability to break down South Africa's defence are all on the agenda, as Ian tries to pick through where Ireland go from here with France in the Six Nations just 10 weeks away. Our rugby coverage on the Indo Sport podcast is brought to you by Energia.

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