The Modern Therapist's Survival Guide with Curt Widhalm and Katie Vernoy

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Curt and Katie talk about evidence-based practices, clinician training, and when even the evidence base can go wrong.    

It’s time to reimagine therapy and what it means to be a therapist. To support you as a whole person and a therapist, your hosts, Curt Widhalm and Katie Vernoy talk about how to approach the role of therapist in the modern age.

In this episode we talk about:

  • How we know better than the evidence
  • The need for evidence-based practice in community mental health
  • Funding, efficiency, and diagnosis
  • The difference between the clientele in public mental health and private practice
  • Evidence-based practices pros and cons
  • The science, the efficacy, replicability of EBPs
  • The pros and cons of EBPs in community mental health
  • The need to include individual factors in EBPs
  • EBPs versus relational style (and how they may not be mutually exclusive)
  • The question about personality characteristics of CBT therapists
  • The opinion about rapport being missing from EBPs
  • How training jumps to EBP, to the detriment of the relationship
  • The problem with people who overuse or oversimplify the need for each orientation
  • Strong clinical orientation versus the “eclectic” or “integrative” psychotherapy
  • The Medical Model
  • The challenge of training therapists in relational skills and how to be a better therapist, rather than teaching specific handful of skills
  • The importance of proving efficacy, getting funding for services
  • Treatment decision-making and collaboration in public mental health versus private practice
  • The complexity of actual clients and the need for more than just one EBP to use for treatment
  • The problems with new clinician training related to EBPs

    • Resources mentioned:

    We’ve pulled together resources mentioned in this episode and put together some handy-dandy links.

    Dr. Scott Miller: Feedback Informed Treatment

    Dr. Ben Caldwell

    Modern Community Mental Health: An Interdisciplinary Approach by Kenneth Yeager, David Cutler, Dale Svendsen, and Grayce M. Sills

     

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    Therapist Know Thyself

    Our Facebook Group – The Modern Therapists Group

    Therapy Reimagined 2019

    Our CALL FOR SPEAKERS!!

     

    Our consultation services:

    The Fifty-Minute Hour

    Credits:

    Voice Over by DW McCann https://www.facebook.com/McCannDW/

    Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano http://www.crystalmangano.com/

     

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