This week, with big developments in two antitrust cases against Google, we discuss how the company may be forced to change its business. Then we’re joined by the journalist Mark Yarm to discuss his recent visit to an underwater home for his article about techno-utopians who want to colonize the ocean. And finally, it’s tool time! We’ll tell you about our latest experiments with ChatGPT’s o3, Casey’s newest journaling practice and Kevin’s continued battle to get to inbox zero.

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Guest:

• Mark Yarm, an executive editor at PCMag and the author of “Everybody Loves Our Town: An Oral History of Grunge.”

Additional Reading:

• Google May Be on the Brink of a Breakup
• Google Is Illegally Monopolizing Online Advertising Tech, Judge Rules
• The Techno-Utopians Who Want to Colonize the Sea

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