Can our cell phones give us a clue as to whether LDS memberships numbers are declining? As Dr. Simon Southerton tells us, one of the most closely guarded secrets of the Mormon church is the numbers of people sitting in Mormon chapels each week. Church leaders know what the attendance figures are, but the leaders don't like sharing bad news.

The truth is that attendance is lower than everyone expects and is declining rapidly in most western countries. While the church won't share the numbers, our cellphones may hold the key to getting a more accurate picture of what the real attendance numbers are.

Dr. Southerton dives into the use of cellphone technology and the information it can give us in this absolutely fascinating episode. We learned so much from this conversation and we know you will too.

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