In this episode of the Jake & Gino podcast, we sit down with Nick Maggiulli — creator of Dollars and Data and bestselling author of Just Keep Buying and Just Keep Mining. Nick breaks down his new book and signature "Wealth Ladder" framework — a six-level approach to building wealth based on net worth and financial behaviors.

 

We discuss how your income, mindset, and investment strategy must evolve as you move up the ladder. Whether you’re just starting out with less than $10K or strategizing how to break into the $10M+ wealth bracket, this conversation will help you identify where you are, what’s holding you back, and what to do next.

You’ll also hear about:

• The dangers of ego-driven spending (looking at you, $800 car payments)
  
   
• Why most people get stuck at levels 1 and 2
  
   
• Why increasing income is more powerful than cutting spending
  
   
• Why saving, investing, and possibly starting a business are keys to long-term wealth
  
   

Grab Nick’s new book Just Keep Mining and visit: https://ofdollarsanddata.com

Connect with Nick:
Twitter: @dollarsanddata
Website: https://ofdollarsanddata.com

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Chapters:

00:00:00 - Introduction  

00:03:02 - What is the Wealth Ladder? The 6 Levels Explained  

00:10:47 - What Assets Dominate Each Level of Wealth?  

00:14:04 - Wealth Disparities & Home Ownership Data  

00:14:55 - The Matsushita Story: Wealth Evolution Through Strategy Shifts  

00:16:54 - Why Most People Never Reach Level 5 or 6  

00:19:39 - How Income and Mindset Shape Your Net Worth  

00:23:56 - Wealth as a Scorecard & Source of Purpose  

00:29:31 - Key Behaviors and Strategies for Leveling Up  

00:32:50 - When to Start a Business or Stay in Your Lane  

00:34:45 - Best Investing Advice: Just Keep Buying  

00:36:42 - Book Recommendations  

00:37:32 - Gino Wraps it Up  

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