For the first time ever on the Talkhouse Film podcast, we have two brothers in conversation as Jason Schwartzman chats with his brother Robert Schwartzman (best known as the frontman of indie band Rooney), whose first film as a writer-director, Dreamland, is out now. In between bouts of fraternal bickering, the two talk about making the jump from music to movies, working with actors, MIDI files and player pianos (cue a serious geek-out from Jason), how Gene Wilder found his way into playing Willy Wonka, crazy real-life experiences with agents and A&R guys, Robert's aptitude with money (at least in comparison to Jason), and much more. For more filmmakers talking film and TV, visit Talkhouse Film at talkhouse.com/film.