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October 09, 2018JSJ 334: “Web Performance API” with Dan Shappir
Panel:
Aimee Knight
Charles Max Wood
Christopher Ferdinandi (Boston)
Special Guests: Dan Shappir (Tel Aviv)In this episode, the panel talks with Dan Shappir who is a computer software developer and performance specialist at Wix.com. As Dan states, his job is to make 100 million websites (hosted on the Wix platform) load and execute faster! Past employment includes working for companies, such as: Ericom, Ericom Software, and BackWeb. He studied at Technion Institute of Management and currently lives in Tel Aviv, Israel. The panel talks about web performance API among other things. Check it out!Show Topics:1:29 – Charles: Let us know who you are and why you’re famous!1:39 – “Hello!” from Dan Shappir.2:25 – Charles: You should say that you go to EACH site EVERY day out of the millions of sites out there.2:53 – Charles: My mom mentioned Wix to me at first. My mom teaches High School Math.3:16 – Dan: Yes that is our mission statement. That everyone can get a website without the knowledge of how to build a website.3:52 – Aimee makes her comments.3:59 – Dan: On our platform we try to offer people flexibility. There are bounds and limits, but people can do their very own thing, though. To make Wix faster because as we add more features and functionality that is our goal.4:40 – Chuck: Okay, I know how to make X perform a little bit better. You are looking at a platform that controls TONS of sites, how do you even go about that?4:58 – Dan: It is more difficult then that. We have millions of users leveraging the platform but there are a lot of developers in Wix who are developing the platform. I don’t think anyone at Wix has a total grasp of the complexity of the platform that we built. We have hundreds of frontend people working on our platform. All of them have pieces to the kingdom. We have processes in place with code reviews and whatnot, but there is so much going on. There is a change every 2 minutes, 24/7. We need to make sure progressing instead of regressing. 6:54 – Aimee: I think it was interesting in one of the links you sent over. Because you know when something is getting worse you consider that a bug.7:15 – Dan: It is more than a bug because if we see regression in performance then that is a problem. I can literally see any part of the organization and say, “stop” if it will7:57 – Chuck: We are talking about performance, but what does that mean? What measures are there?8:15: Dan: We are looking at performance can mean different things in different contents. User sites, for example, most important aspect is load time. How quickly the page loads and gets open to the viewer to that specific site. When they click something they want it instantly and no drag time. It does change in different contexts.9:58 – Chuck: People do talk about load time. People have different definitions of it.10:12: Dan: Excellent question. When you look at the different sites through Wix. Different people who build sites – load time can mean something else to everybody. It can mean when you see the MAIN text or the MAIN image. If it’s on an ECON site then how soon can they purchase or on a booking site, how long can the person book X product.I heard someone at a conference say that load time is when: HERO TEXT And HERO IMAGE are displayed.12:14 – Chuck: What is faster React or Vue?12:21 – NEW HOST: Not sure. It all depends.12:34 – Dan: We are big into React. We are one of the big React users outside of Facebook. I joined Wix four years ago, and even back then we were rebuilding our framework using React. One of our main modifications is because we wanted to do server-side rendered.13:27 – Christopher asks Dan a question.14:16 – Dan: We are in transition in this regard. Before we were totally client-site rendered, and that was the case until middle of last year. Then we deployed...Dan: We are 100% server-side rendered now. Some things we are still using JavaScript. We have another project going on now and it’s fully CSS, and little JavaScript as possible. What you might want to do with that site is...You might get in a few months every Wix site will be visible even if JavaScript is disabled.16:26 – Aimee adds in her comments and observations to this topic.16:55 – Dan: We don’t want things displayed incorrectly before it lays out. We hide the content while it’s downloading then make it visible. They lay-outing are done faster, because...17:44 – Christopher asks Dan a question.18:04 – Dan: I got into API...Either you are moving forward or are you moving back. AKA – You are either progressing or regressing.Different stages:1.) Development stage2.) Pre-Production (automated tools that check the performance with specific use cases)3.) Check it out!It’s beneficial to use these APIs.21:11 – Christopher: What is performance APIs?21:38 – Dan: There is a working group – Todd from Microsoft and others who are exposing the information (that is available in the browser) out into the browser. When the browser downloads a certain source (image, font, etc.) it can measure the various stages of downloading that feature. You have these different sages of downloading this resource. The browser can measure each of these stages and then expose them to you. Basically it’s for the browser to expose this information to you and in a way that is coherent and uniform. It essentially maintains this buffer that puts performance entries sequentially.Dan continues explaining this topic in detail.25:55 – Dan: You have this internal buffer...28:45 – Advertisement – Sentry – They support opensource.29:39 – Christopher: everything you are saying seems that I can use this or that tab right now...Why would I prefer the API to something visual, hypothetically?30:03 – Dan: Three Different Stages. (See above.)This information is very, very helpful during the developmental stage. Say you got a link from someone...Dan mentions: Performance.mark 34:04 – Aimee: When you were talking about resource-ends. Many people don’t know what this is. Can you spend 2-3 minutes about how you guys are using these? Are there people can add for big bang for their buck?34:41 – Dan: This might want to be a topic for its own podcast show.Dan gives a definition of what a resource-end means.Go back to fonts as an example.Pre-connect for example, too.39:03 – Dan: Like I said, it’s a huge topic.You have to exercise some care. Bandwidth is limited. Make sure you aren’t blocking other resources that you do need right now.40:02 – Aimee: Sounds like a lot of great things to tap into. Another question I have is about bundling.40:27 – Dan: One of the things that we try to do (given that we are depending on the JavaScript we are downloading) we need to download JavaScript content to the client side. It has been shown often that JS is the most impactful resources that you need to download. You really want to be as smart as possible with that. What is even more challenging is the network protocols are changing.Dan continues to go in-depth about this topic. Dan: What we have found is that you want to strive to bundle resources together.44:10 – Aimee: Makes sense.44:15 – Dan continues talking about this topic.45:23 – Chuck asks two questions. (First question is now and second question is at 51:32.)2 Questions:1. You gather information from web performance AI - What system is that?45:42 – Dan: I am not the expert in that. I will try not to give misleading information. Actually let me phrase it different. There are 3rd party tools that you can use leverage in your website. IF you are building for commercial reasons I highly recommend that you use performance-monitoring solution. I am not going to advertise one because there are tons out there. We ended up rolling out our own infrastructure because our use case is different than most.At a conference I talked with a vendor and we talked about...51:32 – 2nd Question from Charles to Dan: Now you’ve gathered this information now what to you do? What patterns? What do you look for? And how do you decide to optimize things?54:23 – Chuck: Back to that question, Dan. How should they react to it and what are they looking for54:41 – Dan: Three main ways: 1.) Generate alerts 2.) See trends over long period of time 3.) Looking at real-time graphs.Frontend developer pro is that likely being woken up in the middle of the night is lower. We might be looking at the real time graph after we deployed...57:31 – Advertisement – Get a Coder Job!58:10 – Picks!Links:
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1 hr 9 min
October 03, 2018MJS 079: Michael Garrigan
Panel: Charles Max Wood
Guest: Michael Garrigan
This week on My JavaScript Story, Charles speaks with http://michaelgarrigan.com who is one of the podcast’s listeners. He is changing careers midway and has had many exciting careers in the past, such as being a professional chef, carpenter, repairman, and so on. Listen to today’s episode to hear Michael’s unique experience with programming and JavaScript.
In particular, we dive pretty deep on:
1:18 – Chuck: I started this show but interviewing guests and then opened up to listeners. Michael scheduled an interview and here we go! I find that his experience will be different than mine than others. We will be getting guests on here, but wanted this to be a well-rounded view within the community.
2:25 – Michael’s background! His experience is a mid-career change. To see the things that are intimidating and exciting.
3:16 – How did you get into programming?
3:23 – Michael: How do people talk to machines? What are the different computer languages out there? What do people prefer to use? The C programming language, I saw as the “grandfather” program. That’s the first thing I looked at. Then I was like, “what is going on?” I got a copy of the original K&R book and worked through that.
4:58 – Chuck: I did the C language in college. The Java that I was learning then was less complicated. How did you end up with JavaScript then?
5:26 – Guest: It was easy and you can just open up a console and it works. You want to see things happen visually when you program is great. It’s a great entry point. We started building things in React and how fun that is. I enjoy JavaScript in general.
6:11 – Chuck: What is your career transition?
6:18 – Guest: I have always been a craftsman and building things. I had a portion time I was a professional chef, which is the cold side like sausages and meats and cheeses, etc. I used to do a lot of ice carvings, too. Stopped that and opened a small business and repaired antique furniture for people. Wicker restoration. It was super cool because it was 100+ years old. To see what people did very well was enjoyable. Every few years I wanted to see how something worked, and that’s how I got into it. That was the gateway to something that was scary to something that made programs.
8:24 – Chuck: I was working in IT and wrote a system that managed updates across multiple servers. There is some automation I can do here, and it grew to something else. What made you switch? Were you were looking for something more lucrative?
9:01 – Michael: Main motivation I appreciate the logic behind it. I always build physical items. To build items that are non-physical is kind of different. Using logic to essentially put out a giant instruction sheet is fun.
9:52 – Chuck: At what point do you say I want to do a boot camp?
10:04 – Michael: I might to this as a career. Hobby level and going to work is definitely different. I could see myself getting up every day and going to meetings and talking about these topics and different issues. Coding day to day.
10:51 – Chuck: Who did you talk to who got you started?
10:57 – Guest: Things I read online and friends. They said get the basics behind programming. Languages come and go. Be able to learn quickly and learn the basics.
12:13 – Chuck: In NY city? It’s pricy to live there.
12:33 – Guest: Cost of living is much greater.
12:42 – Chuck: What was it like to go to a boot camp?
12:50 – Guest answers question.
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15:11 – Chuck: What different projects have you worked on?
15:19 – Guest talks about his many different projects. Like senses.gov.
18:11 – Michael: Working on getting a job. I put together a portfolio and just graduated this past week.
19:38 – Charles: Anything that has been a huge challenge for you?
19:47 – Not really just one. I’ve done big projects in the past. Seeing that I can do them and sheer amount of work that I have put in. Not really too concerned. Only concern is that mid-30s any bias that is out there. I don’t think that will really affect me.
20:25 – Chuck: Yeah, it’s rally not age-bias.
20:55 – Michael: “Making your bones” is an expression in culinary school. That means that you put in the hours in the beginning to become a professional at it. So I have had transitioned several times and each time I had to make my bones and put in the time, so I am not looking forward to that for me right now, but...
21:43 – Chuck: Anything else?
21:51 – Guest: Meetups.
22:40 – Chuck: I have been putting time into making this book.
22:53 – Guest puts in his last comments.
24:00 – Chuck: Thinking about what I want DevChat TV to be. I have been thinking and writing the mission statement for DevChat TV.
25:14 – Chuck: It’s a big deal to get out of debt. My wife and I will be at the end of the year.
25:37 – Guest: Discipline not to spend money, and peer pressure.
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October 02, 2018JSJ 333: “JavaScript 2018: Things You Need to Know, and a Few You Can Skip” with Ethan Brown
Panel:
Aimee Knight
Joe Eames
Charles Max Wood
Special Guests: Ethan Brown In this episode, the panel talks with Ethan Brown who is a technological director at a small company. They write software to facilitate large public organizations and help make projects more effective, such as: rehabilitation of large construction projects, among others. There is a lot of government work through the endeavors they encounter. Today, the panel talks about his article he wrote, and other topics such as Flex, Redux, Ruby, Vue.js, Automerge, block chain, and Elm. Enjoy!Show Topics:2:38 – Chuck: We are here to talk about the software side of things.Let’s dive into what you are looking at mid-year what we need to know for 2018. You wrote this.3:25 – Ethan: I start off saying that doing this podcast now, how quickly things change. One thing I didn’t think people needed to know was symbols, and now that’s changed. I had a hard time with bundling and other things. I didn’t think the troubles were worth it. And now a couple of moths ago (an open source project) someone submitted a PR and said: maybe we should be using symbols? I told them I’ve had problems in the past. They said: are you crazy?!It’s funny to see how I things have changed.4:47 – Panel: Could you talk about symbols?4:58 – Aimee: Are they comparable to Ruby?5:05 – Ethan talks about what symbols are and what they do!5:52 – Chuck: That’s pretty close to how that’s used in Ruby, too.6:04 – Aimee: I haven’t used them in JavaScript, yet. When have you used them recently?6:15 – Ethan answers the question.7:17 – Panelist chimes in.7:27 – Ethan continues his answer. The topic of “symbols” continues. Ethan talks about Automerge. 11:18 – Chuck: I want to dive-into what you SHOULD know in 2018 – does this come from your experience? Or how did you drive this list?11:40 – Ethan: I realize that this is a local business, and I try to hear what people are and are not using. I read blogs. I think I am staying on top of these topics being discussed.12:25 – Chuck: Most of these things are what people are talking.12:47 – Aimee: Web Assembly. Why is this on the list?12:58 – Ethan: I put on the list, because I heard lots of people talk about this. What I was hearing the echoes of the JavaScript haters. They have gone through a renaissance. Along with Node, and React (among others) people did get on board. There are a lot of people that are poisoned by that. I think the excitement has died down. If I were to tell a story today – I would14:23 – Would you put block chain on there? And AI?14:34 – Panel: I think it’s something you should be aware of in regards to web assembly. I think it will be aware of. I don’t know if there is anything functional that I could use it with.15:18 – Chuck: I haven’t really played with it...15:27 – Panel: If you wrote this today would you put machine learning on there?15:37 – Ethan: Machine Learning...16:44 – Chuck: Back to Web Assembly. I don’t think you were wrong, I think you were early. Web Assembly isn’t design just to be a ... It’s designed to be highly optimized for...17:45 – Ethan: Well-said. Most of the work I do today we are hardly taxing the devices we are using on.18:18 – Chuck and panel chime in.18:39 – Chuck: I did think the next two you have on here makes sense.18:54 – Panel: Functional programming?19:02 – Ethan: I have a lot of thoughts on functional programming and they are mixed. I was exposed to this in the late 90’s. It was around by 20-30 years. These aren’t new. I do credit JavaScript to bring these to the masses. It’s the first language I see the masses clinging to. 10 years ago you didn’t see that. I think that’s great for the programming community in general. I would liken it to a way that Ruby on Rails really changed the way we do web developing with strong tooling. It was never really my favorite language but I can appreciate what it did for web programming. With that said...(Ethan continues the conversation.)Ethan: I love Elm. 21:49 – Panelists talks about Elm. *The topic diverts slightly.22:23 – Panel: Here’s a counter-argument. Want to stir the pot a little bit. I want to take the side of someone who does NOT like functional programming.24:08 – Ethan: I don’t disagree with you. There are some things I agree with and things I do disagree with. Let’s talk about Data Structures. I feel like I use this everyday. Maybe it’s the common ones. The computer science background definitely helps out.If there was one data structure, it would be TREES. I think STACKS and QUEUES are important, too. Don’t use 200-300 hours, but here are the most important ones. For algorithms that maybe you should know and bust out by heart.27:48 – Advertisement for Chuck’s E-book Course: Get A Coder Job28:30 – Chuck: Functional programming – people talk bout why they hate it, and people go all the way down and they say: You have to do it this way....What pay things will pay off for me, and which things won’t pay off for me? For a lot of the easy wins it has already been discussed. I can’t remember all the principles behind it. You are looking at real tradeoffs. You have to approach it in another way. I like the IDEA that you should know in 2018, get to know X, Y, or Z, this year. You are helping the person guide them through the process.30:18 – Ethan: Having the right tools in your toolbox.30:45 – Panel: I agree with everything you said, I was on board, until you said: Get Merge Conflicts.I think as developers we are being dragged in...33:55 – Panelist: Is this the RIGHT tool to use in this situation?34:06 – Aimee: If you are ever feeling super imposed about something then make sure you give it a fair shot, first.34:28 – That’s the only reason why I keep watching DC movies.34:41 – Chuck: Functional programming and...I see people react because of the hype cycle. It doesn’t fit into my current paradigm. Is it super popular for a few months or...?35:10 – Aimee: I would love for someone to point out a way those pure functions that wouldn’t make their code more testable.35:42 – Ethan: Give things a fair shake. This is going back a few years when React was starting to gain popularity. I had young programmers all about React. I tried it and mixing it with JavaScript and...I thought it was gross. Everyone went on board and I had to make technically decisions. A Friend told me that you have to try it 3 times and give up 3 times for you to get it. That was exactly it – don’t know if that was prophecy or something. This was one of my bigger professional mistakes because team wanted to use it and I didn’t at first. At the time we went with Vue (old dog like me). I cost us 80,000 lines of code and how many man hours because I wasn’t keeping an open-mind?37:54 – Chuck: We can all say that with someone we’ve done.38:04 – Panel shares a personal story.38:32 – Panel: I sympathize because I had the same feeling as automated testing. That first time, that automated test saved me 3 hours. Oh My Gosh! What have I been missing!39:12 – Ethan: Why should you do automated testing? Here is why...You have to not be afraid of testing. Not afraid of breaking things and getting messy.39:51 – Panel: Immutability?40:00 – Ethan talks about this topic.42:58 – Chuck: You have summed up my experience with it.43:10 – Panel: Yep. I agree. This is stupid why would I make a copy of a huge structure, when...44:03 – Chuck: To Joe’s point – but it wasn’t just “this was a dumb way” – it was also trivial, too. I am doing all of these operations and look my memory doesn’t go through the roof. They you see it pay off. If you don’t see how it’s saving you effort, at first, then you really understand later.44:58 – Aimee: Going back to it being a functional concept and making things more testable and let it being clearly separate things makes working in code a better experience.As I am working in a system that is NOT a pleasure.45:31 – Chuck: It’s called legacy code...45:38 – What is the code year? What constitutes a legacy application?45:55 – Panel: 7 times – good rule.46:10 – Aimee: I am not trolling. Serious conversation I was having with them this year.46:27 – Just like cars.46:34 – Chuck chimes in with his rule of thumb.46:244 – Panel and Chuck go back-and-forth with this topic.47:14 – Dilbert cartoons – check it out. 47:55 – GREAT QUOTE about life lessons.48:09 – Chuck: I wish I knew then what I know now.Data binding. Flux and Redux. Lots of this came out of stuff around both data stores and shadow domes. How do you tease this out with the stuff that came out aro

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24 min
September 26, 2018MJS 078: Steve Edwards
Panel: Charles Max Wood
Guest: Steve Edwards
This week on My JavaScript Story, Charles speaks with Steve Edwards who is a website developer and lives in Portland, OR. He is a senior developer at an international corporation called, Fluke. Today’s main topic of conversation is Drupal. Check out the episode to hear about this and much more!
In particular, we dive pretty deep on:
1:05 – Chuck: Welcome! I appreciate your contributions with hooking me up with some people.
2:22 – Started in IT in 1995.
2:38 – Chuck: How did you get into software development?
2:46 – Steve: In high school not much courses on it. Then in college did some programming there. After college, I was supposed to get married. I was thinking finance. Never nailed down what I wanted to do. Called Bank of America in 1991 – called them. He said let me put in touch with someone. One of the things I got to put classes on “how does this system work.” I got into the banking job and realized not for me. Did realize that I do like teaching. Got software support for another bank. My banking software experience got me the job. We did interfaces – data from PC base to main systems like IBM, etc. I dealt with the source. Same time, I was a diehard racket ball player; on the board state organization. Someone organizing a website for group through Front Page. Hey do you want to take this over? Got to know Front Page. It’s painful to think about it. Same time a position opened up. I got PHP books, and created a new website for our racket ball organization. Off-time learning this. At work I used other tools for the job. That’s where I got into programming and developing. I was an analyst and wanted to program. I created a website from nothing in 2004 for a mountain bike shop. Learned a lot about PHB – and learned that I never want to build anything from scratch ever again. 2006 I start looing for a CMS and I got into some evaluations and got into Drupal. Now I got to do fulltime Drupal. Some guys left the company and got to do Drupal, also. There’s a book on basic JavaScript, and haven’t gotten into it. It’s nice because since 2009 I have been working from home. 3-4 years ago I heard about Angular and how it was used in Drupal. Weather.com – they did things with Angular. I started diving into Angular. Then a small project – worked with Travis then we started with our new ideas/projects. Then I went and took some Angular classes, and I was working on my project. I had these questions. They said that this was used for a one-time use. Okay, I had to figure it out. Travis one day asked: What are you doing? I showed him with the calendar and integrated with... Travis asked if I wanted to go to work with him. Then the past few years I have been working with Vue.js.
12:41 – Chuck: In 2006 I got into Ruby on Rails. I got into jQuery and did some backbone and progressed the same way you did. Worked with Angular and Vue. There is a lot going on there. Interesting to see how this has all progressed. At what point did you decide – JavaScript is the focus to some of these projects?
13:42 – Steve: Lightweight functions.
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16:05 – Chuck: What are you proud of with the work you’ve done?
16:20 – Steve: Article - All the different projects that it looks like for a developer – I have 5 or 6 projects that I want to get to that I haven’t had time to get to.
Steve talks about one of the projects he is working on.
17:55 – Chuck: What are you working on now?
17:59 – Steve: My company, Fluke, we have a cool setup. It has a three-legged system. In that we have all the background data, another for digital assets, and...
Steve: It’s so fast – I am trying to enhance it to make it even faster.
Another thing that I am working on is that we have a scheduling website for the fire department I am apart of. Band-Aids and glue hold it together. I am trying to work with a calendar so it can integrate – take over the data of a cell and put y stuff in there. It would be efficient so I don’t get all these errors with this old system. It would give me grand control.
20:16 – Steve: I want to get more and more into JavaScript. The one thing that I like about my story is that you did in your spare time. That’s how I got into Google. Multiple years working up late, working with people and different modules. I got good enough (in 2009) and got good enough – it got me into the door.
21:13 – Chuck talks about his course on how to get a job.
Chuck: All you have to do to level-up is to put into the time. Working on open-source project
21:56 – Steve: Learning – find a project you want to do. What is something you want to tackle? What and how can you get it done with your tools? Stack overflow, or Slack questions. We started a new Meetup (last meeting was last month) and people do Vue on a regular basis. Slack room. That’s how I got into...
Personal experience you can help people and find
23:00 – Chuck: People want to level-up for different reasons. Whether you are trying to get better, or learn new things – getting to know people and having these conversations will shape your thinking.
23:33 – Steve: Also, networking.
24:10 – Chuck: I wasn’t happy where I was at and talked to people. Hey – what else is out there?
24:37 – Chuck: Any recommendations?
24:42 – Steve: The amount of courses that are out there, and it can be overwhelming. Find courses when they go on sale. I found some courses that were only $10.00. There is stuff that is free and things that you can pay for. It can be inexpensive.
26:38 – Chuck: I do the same thing. I wait for things to go on sale first. I’ve done that with courses. However you learn it. Some people work through a book and for others that’s not the way. Sometimes I will start with a video course then I get frustrated. It helps, though. There are different ways to do it. Go do it.
27:39 – Steve: There is a lot of good jobs – get your foot in the door as a junior guy. Getting the real-life experience.
28:15 – Chuck: How do people get ahold of you?
28:18 – Steve: Twitter, GitHub, wherever...
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September 25, 2018JSJ 332: “You Learned JavaScript, Now What?” with Chris Heilmann
Panel:
AJ O’Neal
Aimee Knight
Joe Eames
Charles Max Wood
Special Guests: Chris Heilmann In this episode, the panel talks with programmer, Chris Heilmann. He has written books about JavaScript, in addition to writing a blog about it and is an educator about this program. He currently resides in Berlin, Germany. Let’s welcome our special guest and listen to today’s episode!Show Topics:2:19 – Chuck talks.2:41 – Chris: He has talked about JavaScript in Berlin upon an invitation. You can get five different suggestions about how to use JavaScript. The best practices, I have found, are on the projects I am on now. JavaScript was built in ten days. My goal is to help people navigate through JavaScript and help them feel not disenfranchised. 5:47 – Aimee: The overall theme is...5:54 – Panelist: I really like what you said about helping people not feeling disenfranchised.6:47 – Chris: There is a lot of peer pressure at peer conferences7:30 – Aimee chimes in with some comments.7:50: Chris: I think we need to hunt the person down that put...8:03 – Panelist: A good point to that is, I try to avoid comments like, “Well, like we ALL know...”8:27 – Chris: There are things NOT to say on stage. It happens, but we don’t want to say certain things while we are teaching people. We are building products with different groups, so keep that in mind.9:40 – Aimee: My experience in doing this is that I have found it very rewarding to share embarrassing experiences that I’ve had. My advice would to tell people to let their guard down. It’s encouraging for me.10:26 – Chris: It helps to show that you are vulnerable and show that you are still learning, too. We are all learning together. 90% of our job is communicating with others.11:05 – Chuck: Now, I do want to ask this...11:35 – Chris answers.12:24 – What makes you say that? (Question to Chris)12:25 – Chris answers.13:55 – Chuck: The different systems out there are either widely distributed or...You will have to work with other people. There is no way that people can make that on their own. If you can’t work with other people, then you are a hindrance.14:31 – Aimee chimes in.14:53 – Chris: They have to be very self-assured. I want to do things that are at the next level. Each developer has his or her own story. I want to move up the chain, so I want to make sure these developers are self-assured.16:07 – Chris: Back to the article...18:26 – Chuck: Yes, I agree. Why go and fight creating a whole system when it exists.18:54 – Chris chimes in with some comments.19:38 – Panelist: I still use console logs.19:48 – Chris: We all do, but we have to...19:55 – Aimee: In the past year, I can’t tell you how much I rely on this. Do I use Angular? Do I learn Vue? All those things that you can focus on – tools.10:21 – Chris: We are talking about the ethics of interfaces. Good code is about accessibility, privacy and maintainability, among others. Everything else is sugar on top. We are building products for other people.22:10 – Chuck: That is the interesting message in your post, and that you are saying: having a deep, solid knowledge of React (that is sort of a status thing...). It is other things that really do matter. It’s the impact we are having. It’s those things that will make the difference. Those things people will want to work with and solves their problems.23:00 – Chris adds his comments. He talks about Flash.24:05 – Chris: The librarian motto: “I don’t know everything, but I can look “here” to find the answer.” We don’t know everything.24:31 – Aimee: Learn how to learn.24:50 – Chris: There is a big gap in the market. Scratch is a cool tool and it’s these puzzle pieces you put together. It was hard for me to use that system. No, I don’t want to do that. But if you teach the kids these tools then that’s good. 24:56 – Chuck: Here is the link, and all I had to do was write React components.26:12 – Chris: My first laptop was 5x more heavy then this one is. Having access to the Internet is a blessing.27:24 – Advertisement 28:21 – Chuck: Let’s bring this back around. If someone has gone through boot camp, you are recommending that they get use to know their editor, debugging, etc.Chris: 28:47 – Chris: Yes, get involved within your community. GitHub. This is a community effort. You can help. Writing code from scratch is not that necessary anymore. Why rebuild something if it works. Why fix it if it’s not broken?31:00 – Chuck talks about his experience.31:13 – Chris continues his thoughts.Chris: Start growing a community.32:01 – Chuck: What ways can people get involved within their community?32:13 – Chris: Meetup. There are a lot of opportunities out there. Just going online and seeing where the conferences34:08 – Chris: It’s interesting when I coach people on public speaking. Sharing your knowledge and learning experience is great!34:50 – Chuck: If they are learning how to code then...by interacting with people you can get closer to what you need/want.35:30 – Chris continues this conversation.35:49 – Chris: You can be the person that helps with x, y, z. Just by getting your name known then you can get a job offer.36:23 – Chuck: How do you find out what is really good content – what’s worth your time vs. what’s not worth your time?36:36 –Chris says, “That’s tricky!” Chris answers the question.37:19: Chris: The best things out there right now is...38:45 – Chuck: Anything else that people want to bring up?39:00 – Chris continues to talk.42:26 – Aimee adds in her thoughts.Aimee: I would encourage people to...43:00 – Chris continues the conversation.Chris: Each project is different, when I build a web app is different then when I build a...45:07 – Panelist: I agree. You talked about abstractions that don’t go away. You use abstractions in what you use. At some point, it’s safe to rly on this abstraction, but not this one. People may ask themselves: maybe CoffeeScript wasn’t the best thing for me.46:11 – Chris comments and refers to jQuery.48:58 – Chris continues the conversation.Chris: I used to work on eight different projects and they worked on different interfaces. I learned about these different environments. This is the project we are now using, and this will like it for the end of time. This is where abstractions are the weird thing. What was the use of the abstraction if it doesn’t have longevity? I think we are building things too soon and too fast.51:04 – Chris: When I work in browsers and come up with brand new stuff.52:21 – Panelist: Your points are great, but there are some additional things we need to talk about. Let’s take jQuery as an example. There is a strong argument that if you misuse the browser...53:45 – Chris: The

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1 hr 15 min
September 19, 2018MJS 077: Sérgio Crisóstomo
Panel: Charles Max Wood
Guest: Sérgio Crisóstomo
This week on My JavaScript Story, Charles speaks with Sérgio Crisóstomo. Charles is now interviewing podcast listeners, not just guest speakers. Check-out toady’s episode to hear Sérgio’s background as a musician and as a programmer. Also, to hear Sérgio’s latest projects and how he fell in-love with Sweden and ended up moving there!
In particular, we dive pretty deep on:
1:46 – Chuck: How did you get into programming?
1:53 – Sérgio: As a child, I got interested into gaming. I wrote coding. Spectrum.
2:22 – Chuck: I think that makes you about my age.
2:41 – Sérgio: I was born in 1978.
2:51 – Sérgio: I had a cousin who got inspired by me and we started doing things together. We would show each other what we were doing. Better games and better computers came around. Turned out that I came back to it later in life.
3:29 – Chuck: what got you interested?
3:30 – Sérgio: It was all about problem-solving. There was no book. It was trial and error. It was magic. I was doing small steps, and it was empowering to me.
4:29 – Chuck: I used Logo. How did you get into programming at the professional-level?
4:45 – Sérgio: It was a long journey. My family was deep into a musical background. I went to the conservatory. I had a background in math, music, and physics. I went into programming because my father pushed me towards that direction. I did my Master’s in violin. After that I moved to Sweden. I really liked Sweden’s educational system. After 20 years I got into program working. I faked it until I made it. I had no one who could help me day-to-day life. I love solving problems. I found myself helping people in Portugal and other countries, since their English wasn’t strong. I liked that I was helping the community. That made me feel good about c
10:15 – Chuck: You switch from PHP to Node? What was the reasoning to that?
11:30 – Chuck: What things have you built in JavaScript?
11:47 – Sérgio: I started doing some freelance work. In the beginning it was helping friends.
13:22 – Chuck: Football – do you mean soccer or football?
13:35 – Sérgio: One day in the school, we got a new principal that the school didn’t like. I left because I wasn’t happy. I was a fulltime musician, and looked at this fulltime-programming job. I went to an interview where there were code quizzes. I loved the challenges. I had to choose between two different careers. After some negotiations it was a great fit for me. I got to be in-charge of different projects. Right now, I am a senior developer. It’s a small company but it is growing.
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16:31 – Chuck: It’s interesting to see how you weren’t happy with your original job and how you got into programming fulltime.
17:29 – Sérgio: It’s important to have a good perspective. I am used to meeting people because I worked with choirs, orchestras, dance, and people and I can use those tools that I learned with musicians and transfer over to programming. Since I was good in JavaScript that helped me. Also, it was good that I was head-in-chief, because of my background of being a teacher. I found similarities and made it happen. That was my way in.
19:36 – Chuck: I find that very interesting. Yes, in the larger markets they might have their pick, but if you look into the smaller markets they might need you.
20:21 – Sérgio: People will invest into you if you are willing to learn and stay for a while.
20:48 – Chuck: What is the community like over in Sweden?
21:12 – Chuck: Do you have a lot of communities/boot camps out there to help people to code out in Sweden?
21:32 – Sérgio: Yes. It’s a really active community, and I have been involved helping connect people. People are curious and wanting to grow. It’s really open.
22:39 – Chuck: How do you start a program like that?
22:53 – Sérgio: I went to MEETUP.COM.
23:45 – Sérgio: I fell in-love with the concept of Sweden’s education system. I was there touring and decided I wanted to move to Sweden. It was worth staying. Sweden is having different political winds now. They are open to foreigners. I am a Swedish citizen now.
25:18 – Chuck: What are you working on now?
25:26 – Sérgio answers Chuck’s question.
26:45 – Chuck: Anything else?
26:54 – Sérgio: I can talk about music a lot! I find a lot of programmers are musicians, too.
27:23 – Chuck: One more question. I have met, too, a lot of programmers who are musicians, too. What is the correlation?
27:43 – Music has a lot of mathematics. You have to play on time and solve problems all the time. I was in a workshop with musicians and entrepreneurs, and I learned a lot in this workshop. There are different attitudes when conducting. There is problem solving and managing people. I see the connections there.
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35 min
September 18, 2018 JSJ 331: “An Overview of JavaScript Testing in 2018” with Vitali Zaidman
Panel:
- https://twitter.com/coolaj86?ref_src=twsrc%255Egoogle%257Ctwcamp%255Eserp%257Ctwgr%255Eauthor
- http://www.aimeemarieknight.com
- https://twitter.com/josepheames?ref_src=twsrc%255Egoogle%257Ctwcamp%255Eserp%257Ctwgr%255Eauthor
- https://twitter.com/cmaxw?lang=en
Special Guests: https://medium.com/@vzaidman In this episode, the panel talks with programmer, https://medium.com/@vzaidman, who is working with Software Solutions Company. He researches technologies and starts new projects all the time, and looks at these new technologies within the market. The panel talks about testing JavaScript in 2018 and https://jestjs.io.Show Topics:1:32 – Chuck: Let’s talk about testing JavaScript in 2018.1:53 – https://medium.com/@vzaidman talks about solving problems in JavaScript.2:46 – Chuck asks https://medium.com/@vzaidman a question.3:03 – Vitali’s answer.3:30 – Why https://jestjs.io? Why not Mocha or these other programs?3:49 – https://jestjs.io is the best interruption of what testing should look like and the best practice nowadays. There are different options, they can be better, but https://jestjs.io has this great support from their community. There are great new features.4:31 – Chuck to Joe: What are you using for testing nowadays?4:43 – Joe: I use Angular, primarily.6:01 – Like life, it’s sometimes easier to use things that make things very valuable.7:55 – Aimee: I have heard great things about http://www.cypress.com/documentation/software-and-drivers/free-and-open-source-software-download-page, but at work we are using another program.8:22 – Vitali: Check out my article.8:51 – Aimee: There are too many problems with the program that we use at work.9:39 – Panelist to Vitali: I read your article, and I am a fan. Why do you pick Test Café over Cypress, and how familiar are you with Cypress? What about Selenium and other programs?10:12 – Vitali: “Test Café and Cypress are competing head-to-head.”Listen to Vitali’s suggestions and comments per the panelists’ question at this timestamp.11:25 – Chuck: I see that you use sign-on...12:29 – Aimee: Can you talk abouthttps://github.com/GoogleChrome/puppeteer? It seems promising.12:45 – Vitali: Yes, Puppeteer is promising. It’s developed by Google and by Chrome. You don’t want to use all of your tests in Puppeteer, because it will be really hard to do in other browsers.13:26: Panelist: “...5, 6, 7, years ago it was important of any kind of https://www.javascript.com testing you had no idea if it worked in one browser and it not necessarily works in another browser. That was 10 years ago. Is multiple browsers testing as important then as it is now?14:51: Vitali answers the above question.15:30 – Aimee: If it is more https://www.javascript.com heavy then it could possibly cause more problems.15:56 – Panelist: I agree with this.16:02 – Vitali continues this conversation with additional comments.16:17 – Aimee: “I see that Safari is the new Internet Explorer.”16:23: Chuck: “Yes, you have to know your audience. Are they using older browsers? What is the compatibility?”17:01 – Vitali: There are issues with the security. Firefox has a feature of tracking protection; something like that.17:33 – Question to Vitali by Panelist.17:55 – Vitali answers the question.18:30 – Panelist makes additional comments.18:43 – If you use Safari, you reap what you sow.18:49 – Chuck: I use Chrome on my iPhone. (Aimee does, too.) Sometimes I wind up in Safari by accident.19:38 – Panelist makes comments.19:52 – Vitali tells a funny story that relates to this topic.20:45 – There are too many standards out there.21:05 – Aimee makes comments.21:08 – https://brutalist-web.design. Some guy has this site – https://brutalist-web.design – where he says use basic stuff and stop being so custom. Stop using the web as some crazy platform, and if your site is a website that can be scrolled through, that’s great. It needs to be just enough for people to see your content.22:16 – Aimee makes additional comments about this topic of https://brutalist-web.design.22:35 – Panelist: I like it when people go out and say things like that.22:45 – Here is the point, though. There is a difference between a website and a web application. Really the purpose is to read an article.23:37 – Vitali chimes in.24:01 – Back to the topic of content on websites.25:17 – Panelist: Medium is very minimal. Medium doesn’t feel like an application.26:10 – Is the website easy enough for the user to scroll through and get the content like they want to?26:19 – https://sentry.io/welcome/ 27:22 – See how far off the topic we got?27:31 – These are my favorite conversations to have.27:39 – Vitali: Let’s talk about how my article got so popular. It’s an interesting thing, I started researching “testing” for my company. We wanted to implement one of the testing tools. Instead of creating a presentation, I would write first about it in Medium to get feedback from the community as well. It was a great decision, because I got a lot of comments back. I enjoyed the experience, too. Just write about your problem in Medium to see what people say.28:48 – Panelist: You put a ton of time and energy in this article. There are tons of links. Did you really go through all of those articles?29:10 – Yes, what are the most permanent tools? I was just reading through a lot of comments and feedback from people. I tested the tools myself, too!29:37 – Panelist: You broke down the article, and it’s a 22-minute read.30:09 – Vitali: I wrote the article for my company, and they ad to read it.30:24 – Panelist: Spending so much time – you probably felt like it was apart of your job.30:39 – Vitali: I really like creating and writing. It was rally amazing for me and a great experience. I feel like I am talented in this area because I write well and fast. I wanted to express myself.31:17 – Did you edit and review?31:23 – Vitali: I wrote it by myself and some friends read it. There were serious mistakes, and that’s okay I am not afraid of mistakes. This way you get feedback.32:10 – Chuck: “Some people see testing in JavaScript, and people look at this and say there are so much here. Is there a place where people can start, so that way they don’t’ get too overwhelmed? Is there a way to ease into this and take a bite-size at a time?”32:52 – Vitali: “Find something that works for them. Read the article and start writing code.”He continues this conversation from here on out.34:03 – Chuck continues to ask questions and add other comments.34:16 – Vitali chimes-in. 34:38 – Chuck. 34:46 – Vitali piggybacks off of Chuck’s comments.36:14 – Panelist: Let’s go back to https://jestjs.io. There is a very common occurrence where we see lots of turn and we see ideas like this has become the dominant or the standard, a lot of people talk about stuff within this community. Then we get this idea that ‘this is the only thing that is happening.’ Transition to https://jquery.com to https://reactjs.org to... With that context do you feel like https://jestjs.io will be a dominant program? Are we going to see https://jestjs.io used just as common as Mocha and other popular programs?38:15 – Vitali comments on the panelist’s question.38:50 – Panelist: New features. Are the features in https://jestjs.io (over Jasmine, Mocha, etc.) so important that it will drive people to it by itself?40:30 – Vitali comments on this great question.40:58 – Panelist asks questions about features about https://jestjs.io.41:29 – Vitali talks about this topic.42:14 – Let’s go to picks!42:14 – https://www.digitalocean.com/ Links:
- https://www.facebook.com/vzaidman
- https://medium.com/@vzaidman
- https://github.com/vzaidman
- https://www.npmjs.com/~vzaidman
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56 min
September 11, 2018 JSJ 330: “AWS: Amplify” with Nader Dabit
Panel:
- AJ O’Neal
- Aimee Knight
- Joe Eames
Special Guests: http://naderdabit.me/#/ In this episode, the panel talks with programmer, Nader Dabit, who has been with Amazon’s AWS for the past six months. They discuss the new innovations that Amazon is currently working on, and the exciting new projects that Nader gets to be involved with. Check out this episode to hear all the latest!Show Topics:1:45 – There are two main things that Nader works with. Check out this timestamp to see what they are.3:29 – AJ to Nader: Tell me more about manage cloud. I am not sure about https://aws.amazon.com/cognito/?ef_id=W5RTKgAAAUa7GPf1%3A20180908225434%3As&s_kwcid=AL%214422%213%21293649588890%21p%21%21g%21%21cognito&sc_campaign=acquisition_USsc_publisher%3Dgoogle&sc_category=Security&sc_channel=PS&sc_content=cognito_p&sc_country=US&sc_detail=cognito&sc_matchtype=p&sc_medium=ACQ-P%257CPS-GO%257CNon-Brand%257CDesktop%257CSU%257CSecurity%257CCognito%257CUS%257CEN%257CText&sc_segment=293649588890.3:56 – https://aws.amazon.com/cognito/?ef_id=W5RTKgAAAUa7GPf1%3A20180908225434%3As&s_kwcid=AL%214422%213%21293649588890%21p%21%21g%21%21cognito&sc_campaign=acquisition_USsc_publisher%3Dgoogle&sc_category=Security&sc_channel=PS&sc_content=cognito_p&sc_country=US&sc_detail=cognito&sc_matchtype=p&sc_medium=ACQ-P%257CPS-GO%257CNon-Brand%257CDesktop%257CSU%257CSecurity%257CCognito%257CUS%257CEN%257CText&sc_segment=293649588890 5:06 – What are the other manage cloud services that companies want to offer through the tools you have?5:12 – Nader answers AJ’s question.7:30 – Can you give me more specifics on the storage solutions you are offering?8:03 – Nader answers AJ’s question. People store websites there for example. Frontend developers are using S3 buckets, and they are using the library, which is a storage solution.9:10 – AJ and Nader are having a dialogue between different situations, and Nader is giving the solutions to those hypothetical situations.10:17 – AJ: “I am interested in what you are talking about https://aws.amazon.com/appsync/. Can you tell me how that works?” AJ is picking Nader’s brain about how https://aws.amazon.com/appsync/ works.11:05 – Nader: “It is a single API layer for a point of entry. You can have multi-data sources.” Nader continues, in detail, answering AJ’s question.12:36 – AJ: As a frontend developer, it sounds like I will have to become familiar with the backend, too. How is it providing the most value? What is it that I do not have to touch, because I am using this?15:37 – How would these relations work? As a frontend developer, and I do not want to learn sequel, how would that might look like; currently or in the future? How do you extract that knowledge?16:18 – Yes, it is not an easy solution to solve. Nader goes into detail about how he would approach this situation.18:26 – AJ: Are these resolvers written in https://www.javascript.com?22:04 – Acronym fun!22:45 – https://nodejs.org/en/ 23:51 – Summarizing these pasts 20-some-minutes: Off-Storage, https://aws.amazon.com/appsync/,https://sites.google.com/site/landismodel/developers, and others are what people are using Amplify for. New Question/New Topic: Simplify.25:45 – https://aws.amazon.com/mobile/ – is not mobile specific.26:44 – If you are using https://angular.io, we have a plugin in https://angular.io to help you. We also have that for React and https://vuejsdevelopers.com as well.27:52 – https://sentry.io/welcome/ 28:56 – What should we be talking about?29:04 – Let’s talk about Amazon’s Lex, https://aws.amazon.com/lex/?ef_id=W5RTKgAAAUa7GPf1%3A20180908230815%3As&s_kwcid=AL%214422%213%21209039218013%21p%21%21g%21%21amazon%2520chatbot&sc_campaign=lex_2017&sc_category=lex&sc_channel=PS&sc_content=chatbot_p&sc_country=US&sc_detail=amazon%2520chatbot&sc_matchtype=p&sc_medium=awns_lex_b&sc_publisher=google&sc_segment=209039218013. Nader goes into full detail of this service.33:52 – https://www.apple.com/tv/ 34:00 – AJ: Sounds like this is more platform/ more agnostic than getting different things to come together, and the Microsoft one is more hybrid and the Amazon one is more open?35:13 – Joe, let’s go back to what you had to ask.35:28 – Nader, you talked about https://www.biznessapps.com/blog/what-is-a-push-notification/ earlier. What is https://cloud.google.com/pubsub/docs/overview?36:30 – Is this like traditional hooks? Or custom?37:25 – What is the “stuff” that gets you up in the morning and gets you excited to go to work at AWS?38:40 – Nader: I really had no desire to change career paths, but it happened.41:30 – AJ: I totally agree with the idea in that finding the common patterns, so that way someone on the lower-level can participate. AJ wants a platform that is open or purchase that can offer some of these benefits. It could be open-source or you used to buy the different tools.43:27 AJ: What about for the hobbyist?43:40 – Nader: I agree, that would be really nice. I can’t think of any free services that would be nice.44:03 AJ – Not free in “free,” but “free” towards the idea of “free speech.” They would all be available and you get to choose what works well for you.45:00 – SHOUTOUT to LISTENERS: Have an idea about this? Shoot the panel an e-mail!45:33 – Hopefully this opens the listeners’ eyes to what’s out there.45:48 – Cloud services.46:55 – Innovation follows niche markets. When something gets big and established, innovation comes to a plateau. The innovation will develop in a new economic area like hydraulics. AJ thinks a niche will develop.49:03 – Is there anything, Dabit, which you would like to talk about?49:15 – Can we talk about https://docs.aws.amazon.com/aws-technical-content/latest/aws-overview/artificial-intelligence-services.html?51:10 – Nader saw a demonstration recently.52:26 – Hearing these implications is so cool, but when it comes to ML a panelist dabbled a little bit. He watched some videos, unless you want to devote a year or two to learning it then it’s too complex to put together. Do you have to be genius-level to get through?53:29 – ML you are passing data. Nader is not quite sure.56:00 Nader just did a blog post  check-it-out!56:49 – Let’s do Picks!56:50 – https://www.digitalocean.com/ Links:
- https://twitter.com/dabit3?ref_src=twsrc%255Egoogle%257Ctwcamp%255Eserp%257Ctwgr%255Eauthor
- https://medium.com/@dabit3
- https://www.linkedin.com/in/naderdabit/
- https://github.com/dabit3
- http://naderdabit.me/#/
- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7mca3O0DmdSG2Cr80sOD7g
- https://egghead.io/instructors/nader-dabit
- https://www.javascript.com
- https://aws.amazon.com/cognito/?ef_id=W5RTKgAAAUa7GPf1%3A20180908225434%3As&s_kwcid=AL%214422%213%21293649588890%21p%21%21g%21%21cognito&sc_campaign=acquisition_USsc_publisher%3Dgoogle&sc_category=Security&sc_channel=PS&sc_content=cognito_p&sc_country=US&sc_detail=cognito&sc_matchtype=p&sc_medium=ACQ-P%257CPS-GO%257CNon-Brand%257CDesktop%257CSU%257CSecurity%257CCognito%257CUS%257CEN%257CText&sc_segment=293649588890
- https://aws.amazon.com/appsync/https://nodejs.org/en/
- https://sites.google.com/site/landismodel/developers
- https://aws.amazon.com/mobile/
- https://vuejsdevelopers.com
- https://angular.io
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1 hr 5 min
September 04, 2018JSJ 329: Promises, Promise.finally(), and Async/await with Valeri Karpov
Panel:
Charles Max Wood
AJ O’Neal
Aimee Knight
Special Guests: Valeri Karpov In this episode, the panel talks with programmer, Valerie Karpov from Miami, Florida. He is quite knowledgeable with many different programs, but today’s episode they talk specifically about Async/Await and Promise Generators. Val is constantly busy through his different endeavors and recently finished his e-book, “Mastering Async/Await.” Check-out Val’s social media profiles through LinkedIn, GitHub, Twitter, and more.Show Topics:1:20 – Val has been on previous episodes back in 2013 & 2016.1:37 – Val’s background. He is very involved with multiple companies. Go checkout his new book! 2:39 – Promises generators. Understand Promises and how things sync with Promises. Val suggests that listeners have an integrated understanding of issues like error handling.3:57 – Chuck asks a question.6:25 – Aimee’s asks a question: “Can you speak to why someone would want to use Async/Await?”8:53 – AJ makes comments.10:09 – “What makes an Async/Await not functional?” – Val10:59 – “What’s wrong with Promises or Async/Await that people don’t like it?” - AJ11:25 – Val states that he doesn’t think there really is anything wrong with these programs it just depends on what you need it for. He thinks that having both gives the user great power.12:21 – AJ’s background is with Node and the Python among other programs.12:55 – Implementing Complex Business Logic.15:50 – Val discusses his new e-book.17:08 – Question from Aimee.17:16 – AJ answers question. Promises should have been primitive when it was designed or somewhat event handling.17:46 – The panel agrees that anything is better than Call Backs.18:18 – Aimee makes comments about Async/Await.20:08 – “What are the core principles of your new e-book?” – Chuck20:17 – There are 4 chapters and Val discusses, in detail, what’s in each chapter.22:40 – There could be some confusion from JavaScript for someone where this is their first language. Does Async/Await have any affect on the way you program or does anything make it less or more confusing in the background changes?24:30 – Val answers the before-mentioned question. Async/Await does not have anyway to help with this (data changes in the background).25:36 – “My procedural code, I know that things won’t change on me because it is procedural code. Is it hard to adjust to that?” – AJ26:01 – Val answers the question.26:32 – Building a webserver with Python. 27:31 – Aimee asks a question: “Do you think that there are cases in code base, where I would want to use Promises? Not from a user’s perspective, but what our preferences are, but actual performance. Is there a reason why I would want to use both or be consistent across the board?”28:17 – Val asks for some clarification to Aimee’s question.29:14 – Aimee: “My own personal preference is consistency. Would I want to use Promises in ‘x’ scenario and/or use Async/Await in another situation?”32:28 – Val and AJ are discussing and problem solving different situations that these programs33:05 – “When would you not want to use Async/Await?” – AJ33:25 – Val goes through the different situations when he would not use Async/Await. 33:44 – Chuck is curious about other features of Async/Await and asks Val.36:40 – Facebook’s Regenerator 37:11 – AJ: “Back in the day, people would be really concerned with JavaScript’s performance even with Chrome.” He continues his thoughts on this topic.38:11 – Val answers the AJ’s question.39:10 – Duck JS probably won’t include generators.41:18 – Val: “Have anyone used Engine Script before?” The rest of the panel had never heard of this before.42:09 – Windows Scripting Host 42:56 – Val used Rhino in the past.43:40 – Val: “Going back to the web performance question...”47:08 – “Where do you see using Async/Await the most?” – Chuck47:55 – Val uses Async/Await for everything on the backend because it has made everything so easy for him.48:23 – “So this is why you really haven’t used Web Pack?” – AJ49:20 – Let’s go to Aimee’s Picks!50:18 – AJ’s story, first, before we get to Promises.54:44 – Let’s transition to Promises Finally.54:53 – Val talks about Promises Finally.59:20 – PicksLinks:
JavaScript
Valeri Karpov’s GitHub
Valeri Karpov’s Twitter
Valeri Karpov’s LinkedIn
New E-Book: Mastering Async/Await
Node
Python
Windows Scripting Host
Facebook’s Regenerator
Rhino
Sponsors:
Kendo UI
Sentry
Digital Ocean

Picks:Charles
YouTube Video “IKEA” by Coulton
Conference
Amazon Prime Day
Aimee
Blog Post Article
AJ
IKEA
https://ppl.family
Val
https://www.npmjs.com/package/serve
http://bit.ly/ultimate-skiing
http://asyncawait.net/jsjabber
New E-Book: Mastering Async/Await

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47 min
August 29, 2018MJS 076: Kevin Griffin
Panel: Charles Max Wood
Guest: Kevin Griffin
This week on My JavaScript Story, Charles speaks with Kevin Griffin. Kevin is one of the hosts of the 2 Frugal Dudes Podcast which helps programmers learn how to be smarter with handling their money. He first got into programming really young when his Dad brought home a computer and he was curious about it so he read books and taught himself basic programming that way. They talk about his first job out of college and how that has impacted him now, the fact that you have to create your own job security, and what kind of frameworks he uses. They also touch on the importance of exposing yourself to new technologies and being open-minded, what he is working on currently, and more!
In particular, we dive pretty deep on:
JavaScript Jabber Episode 273

Helping programmers handle their money

2 Frugal Dudes Podcast

Runs financial peace university at his church

Mindset is everything

How did you first get into programming?

Got started really young when his Dad brought home a computer

DOS for Dummies

Taught himself very basic coding

Really into text adventures as a child – wrote some of his own

Taught Logo in Middle school

Computer Science degree in college

Got into software developer community because he was laid off from first job

You have to build your own job security

Do you do JavaScript full-time?

Doesn’t like to pigeon hole himself into one language

C++ and C#

Didn’t want to support JavaScript originally

Using jQuery, Knockout, Ember, and Backbone

Working with Vue and React now

The same problems persist now, just with different frameworks

Looking at the project and then deciding which tool to use

And much, much more!
Links:
JavaScript Jabber Episode 273

2 Frugal Dudes Podcast

DOS for Dummies

jQuery

JavaScript

Knockout

Ember

Backbone

Vue

React

@2frugaldudes

@1kevgriff

kevgriffin.com

Kevin’s Twitch

Swift Kick
Sponsors:
Code Badges

Digital Ocean
Picks
Charles
The Expanse
Kevin
Twitch – His twitch
38 min

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