Melina and Dylan discuss her pandemic pivot to music production, distinctions between the algorithm and OG social media, the Bay Area, the changing landscape of indie success, how love helped her music career, and b*dr**m p*p.

+ Melina answers a listener advice question.

Artists we referenced:

boygenius, Chastity Belt, Bachelor, Routine, Whitmer Thomas, Vagabon, Lucy Daucus, Phoebe Bridgers, Julien Baker, Fenne Lilly, Al Menne, Sour Widows, Blonde In Car, Lala Lala, Lucinda Williams, My Bloody Valentine, Mini Trees, Craft Spells, Molly Burch, Bethany Cosentino, Alex G, Caroline Polacheck, HAIM.

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