Self-Conscious with Chrissy Teigen

Jefferson Fisher: Stop Spiraling: Use This 3-Step Script for Every Tough Talk


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Jefferson Fisher, a Texas trial lawyer and viral communication coach, joins Self-Conscious to break down how to have hard conversations without spiraling. Whether it’s with your partner, your parent, or your boss, Jefferson offers a step-by-step framework to help you speak clearly, stay grounded, and protect your relationships in the process.

You’ll learn how to start a tough conversation without triggering defensiveness, what to say instead of “we need to talk,” and why your breath may be the most powerful thing you say. Jefferson shares practical strategies for regulating your emotions in real time, setting healthy conversational boundaries, and staying composed—even when the other person isn’t.

Chrissy brings her own real-world struggles with confrontation into the mix, making this episode feel like a vulnerable, high-impact workshop in real time. By the end, you won’t just understand how to talk—you’ll understand how to be heard without losing yourself. The goal isn’t to win the argument. It’s to have the next conversation.

5 Key Takeaways:

  1. Use a three-step formula—state the topic, define the goal, and ask for buy-in—to structure any difficult conversation.
  2. Avoid triggering phrases like “we need to talk” and instead open with direct, neutral language.
  3. Practice Jefferson’s “conversational breath” to reset your nervous system before you respond.
  4. Lowering your voice in tense moments invites the other person to meet you in calm, not conflict.
  5. When things escalate, pause and ask intentional questions like “Can you say that again?” to shift the power dynamic.


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