For the first time in Joiners history, we welcome back a repeat guest: Mindy Segal. A longtime friend of the pod, Mindy remains one of our favorite people to talk to. She's funny, fearless, deeply thoughtful about hospitality, and never especially interested in keeping an opinion to herself (but she's working on it). She continues to hold it down at Mindy’s Bakery, the deeply personal neighborhood shop where weekend lines wrap around the block, the pastries inspire cult-like devotion, and her team has room to grow, experiment, and practice their craft. She comes to the studio bearing a birthday cake for Danny, teases an intimate new concept, and catches us up on everything else. We talk: the art of a real apology, getting “cancelled” for five minutes, Chicago bakery politics, concert etiquette, dirty bathrooms, dabbing with Mike Sula, why the best hospitality often has nothing to do with restaurants -- and so much more.