Today on Sauna Talk, we welcome back Jon Sabes.

Jon first joined us on Episode #61, and in this conversation, we reconnect on the same sauna bench in Minneapolis. He's in town from Los Angeles for a winter weekend, and we meet after a cross-country ski on Lake Minnetonka—just as the sauna is coming up to temperature.

There's something about talking with authors on the bench. The conversation tends to flow easily—like good steam in the hot room.

Jon's new book, Healthy Wealthy Longevity, is at the center of our discussion. It's a thoughtful guide to living with intention, built on the idea that small, consistent actions shape the bigger picture of our lives.

On the bench, we explore a few key themes from the book:

• How daily habits compound over time—for better or worse
• The connection between physical health, financial well-being, and emotional balance
• The role of intentional living in creating a fulfilling life

Jon shares practical insights drawn from his own experience, along with perspectives that feel both grounded and applicable.

I've also been using Jon's daily journal, which complements the ideas in his book—helping bring structure, clarity, and a sense of gratitude into the everyday.

In addition to his work as an author, Jon serves on the board of the Sauna Research Institute, where there are some exciting developments underway in the world of sauna and health.

From the sauna bench in Minneapolis, please welcome Jon Sabes.