In this episode, Jamel shares her journey of infertility and the decision to pursue adoption. She discusses the support she received during her infertility journey and the importance of seeking therapy to work through the grief and loss associated with infertility. Jamel also highlights the presence of adoption in her family history and how it influenced her decision. She shares her experience attending an informational meeting at an adoption agency and the discussions she had with her husband before ultimately deciding to pursue adoption. This part of the conversation covers the adoption process, including choosing an adoption agency, the adoption education and training process, open or closed adoption, potential confusion for the adopted child, being yourself and embracing differences, and advice for those dealing with infertility. In this conversation, the guest shares their personal story and experiences, highlighting the universality of the topic.