We're digging into the Dr. Gabor Maté's third level of compassion in this episode: The compassion of recognition. This level emphasizes realizing the shared nature of pain and loss, reminding us that we are not alone. We'll highlight the 'illusion of separation' and how breaking through it can deepen our connections and ease our struggles. We'll also share the 'Judge, Mirror, Bridge' exercise to help us practice compassion by identifying judgments, finding similarities within ourselves, and bridging connections with others.

About: The Joy Lab Podcast blends science and soul to help you cope better with stress, ease anxiety, and uplift mood. Join Dr. Henry Emmons and Dr. Aimee Prasek for practical, mindfulness-based tools and positive psychology strategies to build resilience and create lasting joy.

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• Joy Lab Program: Take the next leap in your wellbeing journey with step-by-step practices to help you build and maintain the elements of joy in your life.
• Previous episodes for this series:
• Part 1: Ordinary Human Compassion & Self-Compassion to Improve Mental Health
• Part 2: Understanding Ourselves & Others
• Gabor Mate's website.
• How can I love myself more... and love others more too? [ep. 174]

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Stuck in judgement? If so, you're not alone. In this episode, we're exploring the 'compassion of understanding,' the second level in Dr. Gabor Maté's five levels of compassion. This level of compassion can help us move beyond judgment and into curiosity and understanding. We'll talk about some strategies to put this into action so that we can cultivate compassion both for ourselves and others.

About: The Joy Lab Podcast blends science and soul to help you cope better with stress, ease anxiety, and uplift mood. Join Dr. Henry Emmons and Dr. Aimee Prasek for practical, mindfulness-based tools and positive psychology strategies to build resilience and create lasting joy.

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• Joy Lab Program: Take the next leap in your wellbeing journey with step-by-step practices to help you build and maintain the elements of joy in your life.
• Previous episodes for this series:
• Part 1: Ordinary Human Compassion & Self-Compassion to Improve Mental Health
• Gabor Mate's website.
• Sometimes I Just Sits... (the power of solitude) [Joy Lab ep. 74]

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In this episode of the Joy Lab Podcast, we're not just defining compassion, but we're really getting into its relationship with mental health. We'll start by highlighting the important difference between pain and suffering and then get into how compassion, especially self-compassion, serves as a powerful antidote to ease stress responses. This episode also sets the stage for a 5-part series examining Dr. Gabor Maté's five levels of compassion, starting with ordinary human compassion. We'll dive into lots of practical examples (e.g., when you say something you wish you hadn't) and how to apply compassion.

About: The Joy Lab Podcast blends science and soul to help you cope better with stress, ease anxiety, and uplift mood. Join Dr. Henry Emmons and Dr. Aimee Prasek for practical, mindfulness-based tools and positive psychology strategies to build resilience and create lasting joy.

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Sources and Notes:

• Joy Lab Program: Take the next leap in your wellbeing journey with step-by-step practices to help you build and maintain the elements of joy in your life.
• Gabor Mate's website.
• Dr. Krisitin Neff's website (self-compassion.org).

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Settle in for this short meditation with Dr. Henry Emmons. The practice involves relaxing and imagining meaningful connections with loved ones, fostering a sense of gratitude, and enriching your web of relationships. Prepare to center yourself, feel your connections, and settle into the belonging that is part of your existence.

About: Cope with stress, anxiety, and depression better with the Joy Lab Podcast. Learn evidence-based mental health practices and mindfulness skills to boost happiness, resilience, and emotional wellbeing.

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• Joy Lab Program: Take the next leap in your wellbeing journey with step-by-step practices to help you build and maintain the elements of joy in your life.

• Follow this mediation with one of our episodes on love and self-love:

  • Self-Love and Finding Light in the Darkness (encore) [ep. 226]

  • Self-Love: What It Is (and how it's not narcissism) [ep. 227]

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If you or someone you know is struggling or in crisis, help is available. Call the NAMI HelpLine: 1-800-950-6264 available Monday through Friday, 10 a.m. – 10 p.m., ET. OR text "HelpLine" to 62640 or email NAMI at [email protected]. Visit NAMI for more. You can also call or text SAMHSA at 988 or chat 988lifeline.org.

Join us (Dr. Henry Emmons and Dr. Aimee Prasek) as we explore the differences between self-love and narcissism. We'll dig into some common misconceptions and psychological spectrum of narcissism along with the importance of cultivating genuine self-love. Most importantly, we'll highlight the essential fact that self-love is a skill that can be practiced and is essential for a joyful, meaningful life.

About Joy Lab: Find your joy with the Joy Lab Podcast - practical tools, mindfulness techniques, and positive psychology to help you manage stress, calm anxiety, uplift mood, and live with more meaning and resilience.

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Sources and Notes:

• Joy Lab Program: Take the next leap in your wellbeing journey with step-by-step practices to help you build and maintain the elements of joy in your life.
• Joy Lab Episode about FOBO.
• Series on authenticity from our Joy Lab podcast:
• Unmasking Your True Self: Exploring Authenticity and Awe [ep. 216]
• Embrace Your True Self: Accepted, Connected, & In The Game [ep. 217]
• The Road Most Travelled: Awakening Through Suffering [ep. 218]
• Follow Your Bliss: Awakening to Joy [ep. 219]
• The Still Small Voice: Awakening with soulfulness [ep. 220]
• Stephen Fry's website and books.
• Carlson, E. N., Vazire, S., & Oltmanns, T. F. (2011). You probably think this paper's about you: narcissists' perceptions of their personality and reputation. Journal of personality and social psychology, 101(1), 185–201. Access here.
• Nook, E. C., Jaroszewski, A. C., Finch, E. F., & Choi-Kain, L. W. (2022). A Cognitive-Behavioral Formulation of Narcissistic Self-Esteem Dysregulation. Focus (American Psychiatric Publishing), 20(4), 378–388. Access here.

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If you or someone you know is struggling or in crisis, help is available. Call the NAMI HelpLine: 1-800-950-6264 available Monday through Friday, 10 a.m. – 10 p.m., ET. OR text "HelpLine" to 62640 or email NAMI at [email protected]. Visit NAMI for more. You can also call or text SAMHSA at 988 or chat 988lifeline.org.

Self-love is a skill that takes daily practice. And if you're feeling a bit out of practice... well, you're not alone. In this episode, we're diving into our Element of Love by focusing on the wisdom of James Baldwin as he encourages us all to find light within darkness. We'll talk about the relationship of self-love and mental health, self-love as a tool for behavior change, the importance of spotlighting positive actions, and the transformative power of kindness in practical situations.

About: Cope with stress, anxiety, and depression better with the Joy Lab Podcast. Learn evidence-based mental health practices and mindfulness skills to boost happiness, resilience, and emotional wellbeing.

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• Joy Lab Program: Take the next leap in your wellbeing journey with step-by-step practices to help you build and maintain the elements of joy in your life.
• Excerpt from James Baldwin's Nothing Personal.
• Article: Less Screaming, More Weightlifting: The Army Is Reinventing Basic Training for Gen Z

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If you or someone you know is struggling or in crisis, help is available. Call the NAMI HelpLine: 1-800-950-6264 available Monday through Friday, 10 a.m. – 10 p.m., ET. OR text "HelpLine" to 62640 or email NAMI at [email protected]. Visit NAMI for more. You can also call or text SAMHSA at 988 or chat 988lifeline.org.

Welcome to a bite-sized episode kicking off our Month of Love this September. It's likely you're feeling some of the busy energy as we transition into this new season (that back-to-school energy never really leaves us!). Despite the hustle and bustle, we want to encourage you to carry forward the fun, rest, and nourishment we've built up together these last few months. Be sure to subscribe and follow so you don't miss any of our love-filled episodes this month. Sending lots of love your way!

About Joy Lab: Find your joy with the Joy Lab Podcast - practical tools, mindfulness techniques, and positive psychology to help you manage stress, calm anxiety, uplift mood, and live with more meaning and resilience.

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• Joy Lab Program: Take the next leap in your wellbeing journey with step-by-step practices to help you build and maintain the elements of joy in your life.

Sources and full transcript here.

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Note: On Jan 1st, 2025, the Joy Lab Podcast and Program moved from Natural Mental Health to the nonprofit Pathways North.

Join us (Dr. Henry Emmons and Dr. Aimee Prasek) as we dig into the concept of GOMO, the Guarantee of Missing Out, as a more empowering alternative to FOMO (Fear of Missing Out) and FOBO (Fear of Being Over). We'll talk about how making choices inherently involves letting go of other possibilities, which, though initially daunting, can lead to a sense of freedom and relief. We'll lean on insights from Oliver Burkeman's 'Four Thousand Weeks' and Barry Schwartz's 'Paradox of Choice,' as we explore some practical strategies to navigate the overwhelming array of choices in modern life and the art of letting go to make space for what you're most connected to.

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Sources and Notes:

• Joy Lab Program: Take the next leap in your wellbeing journey with step-by-step practices to help you build and maintain the elements of joy in your life.
• Joy Lab Episode about FOBO.
• Four Thousand Weeks by Oliver Burkeman
• Series on authenticity from our Joy Lab podcast:
• Unmasking Your True Self: Exploring Authenticity and Awe [ep. 216]
• Embrace Your True Self: Accepted, Connected, & In The Game [ep. 217]
• The Road Most Travelled: Awakening Through Suffering [ep. 218]
• Follow Your Bliss: Awakening to Joy [ep. 219]
• The Still Small Voice: Awakening with soulfulness [ep. 220]
• Farivar, S., Wang, F., & Turel, O. (2022). Followers' problematic engagement with influencers on social media: An attachment theory perspective. Computers in Human Behavior, 133. Access here.
• Ruth King's website.

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If you or someone you know is struggling or in crisis, help is available. Call the NAMI HelpLine: 1-800-950-6264 available Monday through Friday, 10 a.m. – 10 p.m., ET. OR text "HelpLine" to 62640 or email NAMI at [email protected]. Visit NAMI for more. You can also call or text SAMHSA at 988 or chat 988lifeline.org.

Join us (Dr. Henry Emmons and Dr. Aimee Prasek) as we dig into this phenomenon of 'pathological productivity.' We'll talk about how over-focusing on productivity can lead to mental and physical health issues, why us humans have a deep aversion to idleness, why rest can feel "bad," and most importantly, how we can get out of this kind of pathological productivity and embrace rest and play in ways that nourish us.

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Sources and Notes:

• Joy Lab Program: Take the next leap in your wellbeing journey with step-by-step practices to help you build and maintain the elements of joy in your life.
• Joy Lab episodes referenced:
• Where's Your Third Place? [ep. 171]
• Sometimes I Just Sits... (the power of solitude) [ep. 74]
• Four Thousand Weeks by Oliver Burkeman
• Series on authenticity from our Joy Lab podcast:
• Unmasking Your True Self: Exploring Authenticity and Awe [ep. 216]
• Embrace Your True Self: Accepted, Connected, & In The Game [ep. 217]
• The Road Most Travelled: Awakening Through Suffering [ep. 218]
• Follow Your Bliss: Awakening to Joy [ep. 219]
• The Still Small Voice: Awakening with soulfulness [ep. 220]
• Chandola, T., Ling, W., & Rouxel, P. (2025). Are anxious Mondays associated with HPA-axis dysregulation? A longitudinal study of older adults in England. Journal of Affective Disorders, 389. Access here.

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Please remember that this content is for informational and educational purposes only. It is not intended to provide medical advice and is not a replacement for advice and treatment from a medical professional. Please consult your doctor or other qualified health professional before beginning any diet change, supplement, or lifestyle program.

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If you or someone you know is struggling or in crisis, help is available. Call the NAMI HelpLine: 1-800-950-6264 available Monday through Friday, 10 a.m. – 10 p.m., ET. OR text "HelpLine" to 62640 or email NAMI at [email protected]. Visit NAMI for more. You can also call or text SAMHSA at 988 or chat 988lifeline.org.

Join us (Dr. Henry Emmons and Dr. Aimee Prasek) as we talk about "joyless urgency," a brilliant phrase coined by Marilynne Robinson. The short story is that our modern kind of hustle culture and constant busyness often leads to little personal fulfillment. So what's causing all this urgency? We've highlighted some important reasons in some recent episodes (see links below). Today, we'll introduce another one: too much social media. We'll focus on something called "problematic engagement" and how excessive use on social media can fuel a cycle of anxiety and temporary relief followed by more anxiety and temporary relief and then more anxiety... you get the picture. Awareness is the first step to get out of this cycle and we'll hit on that a bit in this episode. And be sure to tune in for the next several episodes as we'll cover some practical steps you can take to get out of joyless urgency and back into joy.

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Sources and Notes:

• Joy Lab Program: Take the next leap in your wellbeing journey with step-by-step practices to help you build and maintain the elements of joy in your life.
• More about Marilynne Robinson from The Poetry Foundation
• Joy Lab Episodes referenced:
• Worrier? You're Not Alone. Here's Why We Worry... [ep. 213]
• Unmasking Your True Self: Exploring Authenticity and Awe [ep. 216]
• Embrace Your True Self: Accepted, Connected, & In The Game [ep. 217]
• The Road Most Travelled: Awakening Through Suffering [ep. 218]
• Follow Your Bliss: Awakening to Joy [ep. 219]
• The Still Small Voice: Awakening with Soulfulness [ep. 220]
• Farivar, S., Wang, F., & Turel, O. (2022). Followers' problematic engagement with influencers on social media: An attachment theory perspective. Computers in Human Behavior, 133. Access here.

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Please remember that this content is for informational and educational purposes only. It is not intended to provide medical advice and is not a replacement for advice and treatment from a medical professional. Please consult your doctor or other qualified health professional before beginning any diet change, supplement, or lifestyle program.

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If you or someone you know is struggling or in crisis, help is available. Call the NAMI HelpLine: 1-800-950-6264 available Monday through Friday, 10 a.m. – 10 p.m., ET. OR text "HelpLine" to 62640 or email NAMI at [email protected]. Visit NAMI for more. You can also call or text SAMHSA at 988 or chat 988lifeline.org.