On this week's episode of the Talkhouse Podcast, another of the incredible conversations recorded backstage at Pitchfork Music Festival 2018: a talk between two of the breakout artists of 2017, Julie Byrne and Vagabon’s Laetitia Tamko.

Fresh off a national co-headline tour, the friends sat down backstage to discuss the physical and the metaphysical elements of self-care on the road; the often delicate symbiosis of creating art and managing one’s business; the pressures of creating new music when people are watching; and that one guy in the front row in St Louis. Fuck that guy.

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— Elia Einhorn, Talkhouse Podcast host and producer

This episode was produced by Mark Yoshizumi.

Big thanks to Pitchfork Music Festival for hosting Talkhouse, and to Karolina Barej for all of her coordination work.

The Talkhouse Podcast’s theme song is “Plastic Man vs. the Giant Red Phase of the Sun” by Iced Ink.