Just Say No To The DSO

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Dentistry is experiencing an attack by well-funded corporations who want to own the work of each dentist’s hands. While the promises of wealth and ease DSO’s present to owner-dentists appear enticing,... more

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Number 1: Two Sides of the Issue with Dr. Whitney Weiner
In this episode, Dr. Whitney Weiner shares her journey from private practice to joining ICON Dental Partners, discussing the motivations, challenges, and industry insights related to group dentistry and private equity involvement. We explore the nuances of practice ownership, valuation, and the impact of DSO models on dentists and the profession.
August 15, 202658min
Number 2: The Fox in the Henhouse: Chip Fichtner, Fear, and Greed
Bob Speil and Nate Williams open with the starfish principle—one doctor who doesn’t sell is worth the whole podcast—then analogize DSO dealmaking to Big Tobacco: a fortune in getting people hooked, almost nothing in talking them out of it. They take a highlighter to Chip Fichtner’s LPS 2025 scorecard and “just reconnect” emails, knocking the 6.75–11x EBITDA headlines down to work-backs, minority equity, and a commission machine now waving BlackRock, yachts, recruiting teams, and AI as reasons to hand over the name on the door. The closer is the real question under the sales copy: when private equity and family offices own the cash flow, who still owns the patient’s care—and why the honest answer still starts with just saying no.
September 04, 202653min
Number 3: Clawing His Way Back Out with Dr. Brad Langley
This is a special Just Say No episode with a dentist who entered into a DSO and realized it was the wrong way forward for himself as his patients. Dr. Brad Langley recounts his tale of not only saying yes to a DSO but finally breaking free and finding new freedom after getting out. Here is a great quote from today's episode:"After spending years in a DSO, I realized the corporate grind was squeezing out the personal touch. I started feeling disconnected, especially when it came to valuing my team. The constant push for profit often overshadowed patient care and staff well-being."
August 01, 202654min
Number 4: Tumbling Down In a Pile of Lawsuits with Dr Mike Davis
In this episode, Dr. Michael Davis discusses the pitfalls of DSO affiliations, legal settlements, and the importance of ethical practice in dentistry. He highlights recent cases like Aspen Dental's legal issues and offers advice for dentists considering partnerships.
July 06, 202625min
Number 5: Who Works For Who? 6 DSO Tricks Most Dentists Don't See
This episode explores the six fundamental principles that reveal why DSO deals are detrimental to dental practitioners. Hosts Bob and Nate dissect the realities of private equity models, emphasizing the importance of maintaining control, understanding the true value of your practice, and making informed decisions to protect your wealth and profession.
March 27, 202626min