In 1989, a 23-year-old social worker started teaching classes and researching a topic nobody wanted to touch. For 21 years, almost nobody outside her department read her work. Then she gave a 20-minute talk, and it changed the conversation in boardrooms, classrooms, and living rooms across the world. Ryan unpacks her story and the timeline most people never see behind the breakthrough everyone celebrates.

If you’re a teacher wondering if your students are listening, a parent who can’t tell if anything is landing, a pastor whose sermons feel like they’re falling on deaf ears, or a creative whose work gets 12 likes, this episode is for you. Sometimes you get to see the difference you made. Sometimes you just have to trust that it’s happening anyway.