Kelechi Okafor is a fitness guru, a personal trainer, womanist, twerk innovator and pole dance instructor whose podcast Say Your Mind is one of the most hilarious, delightful and enlightening podcasts I listen to. I came into our conversation thinking I’d get the Kelechi we see on social media. The Kelechi who tells people to get a straw to suck their mum, the one who calls out caucasity when she sees it and who’s built a following and a brand not giving two sh*ts if people think she’s an angry black woman.

Instead, our conversation is a deep-dive into the spiritual and the numinous, of those from the physical and psychic worlds who help guide her everyday. We also go deep into experiences that have had traumatic effects and how she’s come out of and through them a stronger, wiser, more formidable and more compassionate woman.

"The titles that you're forcing on my head aren't ones I've chosen for myself."

@kelechnekoff

kelechnekoff.com

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