Kelly shares an episode of a podcast she loves called A Braver Way which is hosted by friends of Kelly Corrigan Wonders, Mónica Guzmán and April Lawson.  Is it the facts that get in the way in our politics, or our stories? Baratunde Thurston is a renowned comedian, activist, and PBS host who knows a lot about how the stories we tell about ourselves can either unlock our civic power... or make us forget we even have it. We’ll zoom in on two unforgettable times Baratunde crossed big divides and what those clashes can teach us, and we’ll hear his four pillars of “how to citizen” — as a verb, not a noun — to help us wield that power daily. Then Monica and April close us out with a clash of their own, unleashing their own stories about citizenship to see where their different politics lead them to think differently about the concept and the many issues that surround it.Credits: 

Host: Mónica Guzmán

Senior Producer & Editor: David Albright

Producer: Jessica Jones

Contributor: April Lawson

Artist in Residence: Gangstagrass.

Cover Art & Graphics: Katelin Annes

Show notes: Ben Caron and Don Goldberg

Featured Song: “That’s the Way We Climb” by Jud Caswell 

A production of Braver Angels. 

Financial Supporters: M.J. Murdock Charitable Trust and Reclaim Curiosity 

Sponsors: USAFacts 

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