Welcome to Session 103 of The Behavioral Observations Podcast!

What you're about to hear is my follow up interview with Dr. Kim Berens from Fit Learning. I spoke with her way back in Session 44, which went out in January of 2018.

This interview was conducted at the First Annual Tate Behavioral Conference, which was held in Springfield, Massachusetts, back in October of 2019. As an aside, during the interview itself, I reference our location as Springfield, New Hampshire… which was probably stuck in my mind because it's two towns over from where I live. So to be clear, this did take place in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts.

Kim and I covered a ton of ground in this podcast, and, as you'll see, she doesn't hold back from sharing her opinions. In particular, we talk about her views on Board Certification of Behavior Analysts, and why she let hers lapse, how Fit Learning is using mindfulness activities to improve learning in their students, as well as her take on the American educational system.

With regard to the latter, she references a book she has written on the subject. At the time of the conference, she was not able to share the title, but now I'm able to announce that the book will be called, Blind Spots: What you don't know you don't know about American Education. I don't have a specific release date yet, but I think she's shooting for the book to be available sometime in the fall of 2020.

Finally, I would be remiss if I didn't take a moment to thank the folks who made this all happen, and that's Christina Tatreau, Kelley St. Clair, and the rest of the awesome people at Tate Behavioral. They were awesome hosts, and they put on an amazing and informative event. When I was down in Springfield, I had a chance to meet many of their employees, and it seems like they've really developed a positive culture. To learn more about them, check out tatebehavioral.com.

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