On this episode of 20/20 Money, my guest is Nathan Hayes.

Listeners of the show will recall that Nathan was just on the show a couple of weeks ago, but this was a topic that we both believe is really important for optometrists to get clarity on at all points of their career: what’s your number?

We’re defining “your number” as the amount of money that one should be saving to build towards financial independence. We talk about why banking on the sale of your practice usually leaves practice owners coming up short. We talk about the other side of that equation and how empowering it can be to know your number and thus be more convicted in the sale price you need to earn when you sell your practice. Nathan also allows me to indulge in a (somewhat) long-winded metaphor that connects flying, sailing, and retirement planning all into one story.

As a reminder, you can get all the information discussed in today’s conversation by visiting our website at integratedpwm.com and clicking on the Learning Center. While there, you can also set up a 20-30min Triage conversation to learn a little bit more about how we help ODs around the country use their practice as a wealth building vehicle, manage cash flow, align purpose with action, and make proactive money decisions.

And with that introduction, I hope you enjoy my conversation with Nathan Hayes.

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